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Hungry Dog Barbell Podcast
Cam Burke
This week I’m joined by full time trainer and CrossFit coach Cam Burke. Cam will be a familiar voice to anyone competing at any level of CrossFit as he is the on the floor to many well known events. From metcon Rush to Wodapolozza cam has experience on a lot of floors.
We talk his early beginnings on the basketball court learning team chemistry and out working more talented people. Then onto his early days coaching and building from ground zero . Then finish up with him taking a chance on something new when former guest Bern Prince handed him a microphone .
Tune in to hear about his journey and learn where you can find him next!
Reach out to Cam:
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What's up, dogs? Welcome back to the Hungry Dog Barbell Podcast. This week I'm joined by Cam Burke, full-time trainer and also CrossFit competition emcee. We talk about how he found the sport of CrossFit and his journey to picking up the mic for the first time.
Speaker 2:Finding CrossFit. I live in the Merrimack Valley, not far away from where I grew up, but I've been born and raised outside of Boston.
Speaker 1:Hell, yeah. So I'll do an intro for the podcast, like after we record like this will drop on Monday, um, so we'll like just flow into the episode and stuff like that. So, dude, like like I just said at the top of it, I want to ask you, like, what does your schedule look like on the week to week or an and like day to day? Do you do CrossFit full time? What's your schedule like?
Speaker 2:My full-time job is I'm a manager and a full-time coach at a gym called Spark Fitness and Andover CrossFit. It's a big health club that offers personal training, small group training, some other styles of classes. We have a general fitness side. We offer tennis as well. Then we have a CrossFit affiliate inside that I manage and I'm in charge of. So that's my full-time gig.
Speaker 2:For me, I have a mix of clients and classes, so it's like 50-50, roughly a little bit more on the client side. But I start as early as 5am or 5.15 is our first class, and I go as late as yes, pretty early, I go as late, late like seven, 30 or so. So some days are longer than others. Um, but day to day for me it's, you know, I always start off, except for Wednesdays. Today I start off with a workout in the morning, but I usually work out, uh, some class, whether it be the eight, 30 of the noon or um. We have open gym times in the afternoon, like one to four. So I, um, I do CrossFit full-time, I program, um, I do CrossFit full-time, I program, I do the programming at my gym. I take classes as much as I can because I also do the coaching development as well. So it's nice to see and be in class with other coaches, see how they do take their classes, but it's also just fun to get a lot, you know, being there with the community. It's really cool for them. And it's like it's great for me because you know I'm sure as busy as you are if I just have an hour. I need a good hour where I know I'm going to get warmed up, I'm going to get told what to do, I'm going to be able to go through the whole workout that I program or me and my boss program, and I know no matter what I'm done in 60 minutes because I have some other stuff that I have to do day to day.
Speaker 2:And a big thing that I do outside of the coaching space is programming. I do remote programming for a couple people. I work with another company, me and my buddy Pete it's called Made by Mason, and it's like online template stuff and then some other like individualized things. And then I have just like some backend stuff at work, reaching out to members, just kind of come up with like new and creative ways to kind of get people in and keep people in, and all that stuff. So there's more of like the managerial side. I just kind of fill in when I have certain gaps. So there's more of like the managerial side. I just kind of fill in when I have certain gaps.
Speaker 2:The schedule is kind of all over the place sometimes, but it's pretty consistent. But yeah, it's pretty consistent. But some days it's bigger gaps in the middle, like today. I don't have anything for the rest of the day, which is nice. Some days are, like you know, easier mornings than you know, longer nights. Just kind of depends on the day, and I just kind of try to fit in. You know, get myself like a good half hour to an hour doing certain tasks the way.
Speaker 1:I'm not like losing my mind over it, but also I'm, you know, focused on it for the most part hell yeah, so I want to dive in to like that stuff, break it down a little bit more, like in a second but first dude, like on what you just said about, like that one hour where you can turn the brain off, like that is my ultimate favorite part of crossfit, right like yeah I got into it.
Speaker 1:I'm sure, just like you and so many other people out there listening, like to have an exercise program where I didn't have to go to the gym and write out like what I was doing as far as. Like I was doing like bodybuilding stuff before that right, like yeah. Like so many people start off at and like to be able to just take a class. The coach warms you up, the coach is going to tell you hey, this is a stimulus. Like this barbell should feel like three sets, like max, you know things like that. Like I want you to be able to get this done at this amount of time. They get some high five afterwards, like an hour where I could just like go and do. It's great, you know, like that methodology still works, it it's almost flawless 100 it is.
Speaker 2:It's flawless and it's just such like the best part about it is that it works for, like it works for anybody.
Speaker 2:Like they say, like CrossFit may not be for everybody, but it's for anybody. Like there's any type of people that can come in there and that, like one hour design and that methodology is good for people of all ages and abilities. People that are working out three times a week and rushing in between things. People that are people that have, you know, injuries, people you know adaptive athletes, people with disabilities, people that are trying to go and make something out of the sport and get bigger and better and try to go on the big stages and compete and like that. Like that whole, every all of that stuff is based on that whole 60 minute program. That right, they started back in 2007, 2008, even earlier than that and it's still like it. Still, it's beautiful to see that it still works. And, like you said, the best part about it is that, like the community aspect, like you get the high five and hug it out at the end and then you do it again the next day, right.
Speaker 1:Feel good, you get those good endorphins right. Like something that myself and like my old gym owner and manager used to like talk about a lot, like, have a lot of conversations around is like like it's infinitely scalable. And in CrossFit, right we we think about it like scaling being lesser. Right, like doubling down a workout even though that's not what's really happening. Right, but like in business, you would talk about scaling like being maximizing. Right, like doing more, doing more with what you have you know. So I think that's something that people need to start reframing, like when they're talking about scaling, like what it can actually mean for your exercise program, right, but so back to your timeline, right?
Speaker 1:Like you talked about 50-50 on like clients versus like classes, right. What about like the business side? Like how much time do you think you allocate to those things? Like you were saying, like reaching out to old members, reaching out to old members, reaching out to prospective people, versus like on the floor, um, working with classes versus like on the floor with clients? Like how do you delegate those different hours to those things to maximize them all?
Speaker 2:So, uh, at the beginning of the week I usually have a meeting with my boss, uh the owner of the CrossFit side of the gym, and uh, that's what kind of like sets up the week, like what to do for the remaining you know, four days that I'm in the gym, um, so that helps out, just kind of delegate, like what we're doing, and it really just depends on the type of, or the time of the season, or what season we're in or what time of year. Um, right now we're in like kind of like everybody we're in like a big suburban area, so there's a lot of people that are coming back from not being here in the summer, or they like moved away and came back, or they took some time off and they're coming back and like. So to me I always say, it's like the settle-in season where people are settling in, right, exactly, yeah, people are settling in, they're getting back in the routine. You know, kids are in school or like. You know, we even have some students that are back in school, so they come back this way, or they they leave and go somewhere else. Um, so we, so I spend about like eight to ten hours roughly a week, and that also includes programming.
Speaker 2:But like regarding like the business side of things, like reaching out, just talking to people, thinking of like other new ways, like we have like a beginner's track. We're trying to kind of reframe. We have some other like things, you know, coming out of the pipeline, like some events in November that like just small workouts or doing like Chad, and then we're doing another fundraiser workout and then we have an event this week and that's another fundraiser. So just like community events and things like that. And a little bit of that goes into the coaching development too. So I spent some time putting together a plan, because we meet every Tuesday at 1 30 and it's me and four other coaches that meet that are fairly new into coaching, and so I spent some time, you know. I like an hour or two just like programming. I just like kind of lesson plan and kind of plan out like what do I want to? You know, what are we going to go over? Like, what drills are we going to do? Like that type of stuff.
Speaker 2:So I said just do you guys have over there? In total we have, um, I believe, like let's see one, two, I think we have like eight. We have eight coaches right now, eight coaches, mostly part-time, so I'm full-time. My boss at the gym is full-time. She's also the director of fitness, the entire facility. And then we have two other people that are semi full-time. One of them it works more in like the membership side of things for the entire facility and coaches a couple of classes. And the other one is just like me who she is a personal training coaching. That's her main gig, um, and just started getting into crossfit. So it's nice because we we got a good mix of people and a good mix of coaches and it is like a lot of part-time people that kind of fill in certain spots but like they claim those spots and that's like we don't have to worry about them.
Speaker 2:But it's just trying to kind of get everybody, you know, get everybody on the same page. Like it's really nice to see them like kind of come together and we just like work on certain things and watch them apply to class. It's really fun. It's like coaching athletes or coaching members. Like you tell them what to do, you know. You say, hey, you're doing this, let's try this, and then you watch them apply and then it works.
Speaker 2:Or it's like, okay, let's try something different. So that's like kind of like the, the, like the, the mindset I go into it with, where it's like, you know, these are drills and things that I've learned, but it might be more challenging for one of them to apply in a class, but it's like, you know, try it. If you're like, hey, this is hard, like let's work on something else, or we can find like another way to kind of like dive into like themselves as coaches, like kind of bring out themselves and kind of find their like flow when they're coaching a class how often do you think, like all you said, there's like eight others, so eight to ten of you guys are all in the same room.
Speaker 1:Um, is there ever a time that that happens?
Speaker 2:well, we we're. We have a really like a big crew, like a big community, which is nice, like within our staff, because we have other people that just train and do like other types of classes they do. They just do pt or they just do like our other style. So a lot of us are there all day. So there's on staff probably like 15 to 20 coaches right now if I get off the top of my head, um, but like again, it's like crossfit has eight and then the rest are just like pt, um, they do we call it like spark fitness classes.
Speaker 2:So it's like a couple different like styles of classes that we we do in like our upstairs areas. They're like studios, and then we offer like some like not necessarily boot camp stuff we call like strength and sweat, where it's like more cardio related. Then there's like more of a strength session. So we have all those coaches too, but we're like at the gym all day together. It's hit or miss. Sometimes it's like everyone's there like especially, like in, like the middle of the day or like early in the morning there's like a bigger group, or like later at night there's a bigger group, but for the most part from like that like eight to like 2 pm. Chunk, we're all there, so we do spend a lot of time together, which is really nice hell yeah.
Speaker 1:So how long have you been doing crossfit for in total?
Speaker 2:I have been doing crossfit for it'll be wow, it'll be 12 years. 12 years now, yeah, 12 years. Still can't do a strict handstand push-up, but it's cool, I'm still having fun dude the young.
Speaker 1:Some of the young bucks out there listening won't even know anything about 2012 crossfit. Right like what that stuff used to look like the fits, the high socks, you know, like no rope climbs or workouts yeah, I started again they any of that.
Speaker 2:Well, even back then I was because I started when I was like 17. So, yeah, like 11, 12 years, I started when I was 17 and I had I didn't even know anything about that back then. I just showed up because I was playing uh, basketball, that was my sport. And, um, my older sister was doing CrossFit with a friend at a local gym in uh, salem Mass and she was like, hey, come check this out in the off season because I need something to do. And I showed up and there was just people everywhere because there's a, there's it was like a bigger gym that did more than, um, more than just CrossFit. It was CrossFit Iron Spider and that was actually where I first started coaching at. That was where I first started doing CrossFit at. So when I was like 17, I would just do two days a week and I didn't snatch, I didn't go like overhead with barbells unless it was a strict press or a push press. I didn't do anything handstand related. I basically just like.
Speaker 1:I just want to be in shape for basketball, I want to get stronger you want to be fit from like your knees to your shoulders to collarbone, yeah yeah, exactly yeah.
Speaker 2:I was like I just want to be able to run faster, jump higher and be more agile and be stronger, and it certainly helped with that. But like going back to like that time when I was 17, like thinking now like there's so many things that I just like, like, not like, refuse, but I just like I don't need to worry about that, that's not gonna help my job?
Speaker 1:I was gonna say, were you like, do another coach tell you like yo don't do that stuff because like to me, you know, like the overhead stuff would be where you would want to kind of like gear your training towards right yeah, it was a little bit of both.
Speaker 2:Like they knew the direction I wanted to go in and there was just like some things that and I only came on two days a week, so like there was a lot that I missed as well. And, um, if there was some stuff that I did, but like I never really snatched until after I quit basketball. I just like you know, I remember being in my my first college. I went to, I went to um their gym and they got like somebody donated two platforms to the to the facility and the ceilings were so low that when I did a clean jerk and I was like teaching myself how to do a clean jerk, it was a popcorn ceiling. I was at like like 95 pounds of the bar. I hit the ceiling and like dust started coming down and I was like looking around, I was like what's going?
Speaker 2:on and they're like you can't do. They're like you can't do that in here and I was like I guess I can't, I don't want to hurt or break anything. Oh and um, snatching was fine because it's like the positioning. But so I was like I'll just learn how to snatch and it was like squat snatching. I like did a power snatch in the world's like slowest overhead squat and they were like not quite, but close, and I was like all right, so now.
Speaker 2:So when I went, like after I left my first school, I transferred back home to a closer school, I started going back to the same gym crossfit, iron, spider because I went to school, salem state, and that was where I I was like crossfit every day and there was like so many things that, like you know, like everything from my handstands to like different you know, sweat, jerk, push, jerk, uh, snatches, even just like being on the ring, the whole, the whole thing. Like I was doing everything. There was no limits. You know, I definitely had like shoulder mobility issues just from playing years, playing basketball, everything in front of you. So that was like one thing we worked on. But I was like there's no, there's no, you know, unless I'm hurt, unless it hurts me or like I physically can't do it. I need to scale. There's like no limits on like what I should should be doing and that was like really, that was really when I got hooked.
Speaker 1:That was when they're like I drank the kool-aid and I was all in so I'm gonna ask you about, like your first workout or the first one that really stuck with you in a second, but first I want to know more about like high school basketball game. Like how big was sports a part of your life? Like tell me, who was your game compared to right? Have you seen those comparisons? Like online? Like yes oh, this is like the idaho lebron or something like that, you know yeah, I, that's funny.
Speaker 2:So they used to. It was, uh, when I was in high school, so I played basketball my whole life. That was everything.
Speaker 2:I grew up across the street from a basketball court so I could walk. I was very, very fortunate where I grew up I could just walk across the street any time of the day you know, not during the winter and just play. And it was the best. And my father, he would play with me all the time, you know, whenever he was, whenever, you know, come't come home from work before work. Whenever we were together, we would always play. I'd go to the ymca. You know he was very hands-on with me playing and I was like those were like the best years because it was that was like everything to me.
Speaker 2:I wanted to play in college. I wanted to play. You know, I had ambitions of playing overseas because I worked with some coaches and trainers that also played overseas and they were big role models for me and it was, you know, and it was amazing. And then my like, where I grew up in my town, basketball was like the number one sport. Basketball and football were pretty big. Um, football was just, you know, in the beginning of the school year, everybody's fired up, they're all back where everybody's together, so they're going to watch football all the time and, like my, high school.
Speaker 1:What year did you graduate high school? This will tell me everything right here what, what years were you.
Speaker 2:I graduated high school in 2014.
Speaker 1:let's go there, we go.
Speaker 2:That's a great era of basketball yeah, yeah, it was awesome, it was great. And then my high school was like in the state, like for espn top 25, we were, you know, one to five, like kind of flopping back and forth, and we were like a well-known school. We were a much bigger school in my city that I lived in, um, we were like the biggest, so like basically, like the more students you have, like the higher division, so if you're division one, you have like 15 to 15 to 2000 kids, um, so we would play bigger schools in the playoffs and then we played like our conference and it was just like it was incredible, like it was. That was like my whole entire life. I played basketball every day, forever. I haven't played in a little bit, but that was like everything that I did.
Speaker 2:And that was where, like, my love for like strength and conditioning came in, because that's what I did in the off season and that was always really fun to me because it was like, you know, taking what I would do in the off season and then applying it to what I do, you know, in sport, like actually seeing, like you know, myself get faster and myself get stronger myself. Like you know, at that age I was very thin. I was like for me, I was like under 185, but I was the same height of like six three and so I was very lean, but I was like a growing kid, so I could see that I was like putting on muscle and so, like you know, like the extra stuff that I was doing that wasn't just dribbling a ball, was being applied to was like what I fell in love with, like you know strength training and then eventually turning to CrossFit, Did you have someone a dedicated person to so I started at it was called Mike Boyle strength and conditioning.
Speaker 2:I started there when I was in like seventh grade. So Mike Boyle has been around for a long time. He's mostly like a new England guy and you know he's worked with like hockey players, basketball players, football players in all sorts of professional sports and he is like kind of an OG when it came to like the like like team and sport specific strength and conditioning. We actually have a few people that came from boils that work with us now and they're very smart and they're they're amazing trainers. So that was where I first started in seventh grade. You know it was very basic. It was like hand clean one day, you know dumbbell snatches, on the other day for like explosive stuff front squatting, split squatting. You know a little agility work um sleds, ladders, um bike, like bike work, bike sprints, like.
Speaker 2:It was very traditional strength, strength training and it was a good. It was good because I just learned like you learned everything. You learn all the fundamental, like patterns and all the fundamental movements, which then were like I went into crossfit and they taught me it differently. It wasn't like, oh, this is how I learned. It was like, oh, this is like a new and different way to do it and it was a really cool process. Yeah, yeah, there's a different style of teaching it, like a different pattern.
Speaker 1:What was the first crossfit workout? You did that like stuck with you, that like really put you on your ass. You're like wow, I love this stuff the very first crossfit workout.
Speaker 2:I did that like really stuck with me. This was probably like my first like week or two of crossfit was kelly. So five rounds of time, man, brutal, yeah, which that one ended up becoming one of my favorites because I was like I like wall balls, I like box jumps, I like running, um, but that was probably like it was maybe like my fifth class and it took me that whole day was like was I was like that whole day like took me out because I day was like I was like that whole day took me out Because I did that workout. It was the 9 o'clock class at 9.30 at the time, at my gym in Salem, across from Iron Spider, and there was, so it's five rounds at a time, 40-meter run, 30 wall balls, 30 box jumps. So they were like, hey, wall balls, basically they were like wall balls are good for you, you're tall. And I was like sure, like wall ball. Basically they're like wall balls are good for you, you're tall. And I was like sure, but it's 20 pound ball for me.
Speaker 2:I was like you know, long, lanky arms, it wasn't a basketball by any means and I it was like you know it was the ball crushed me and then the box chance. I remember going to like 20 inches and like mixing in some step ups to me as like this is a basketball player's crossfit workout and I remember being in the second round, being like this is not anything like that. I have smoked. Like 400 meters is a lot longer than a basketball court. This ball is much heavier basketball and I was like and I can't even move my legs on the box jumps. But there was a woman next to me who, um, I forget what her name was, but she was pregnant and she was like seven months, like eight months, like still working out as her second pregnancy and she had an eight pound ball. So she was like row or biking instead of, uh, running.
Speaker 2:So when she was on, the bike and I finished the run I would grab her ball, her eight pound ball, and do as many wall balls out of the 30 as I could and I would just go, and then she'd come over and like, tap me on the back and I'd give it to her like here you go. So I would be like I'd rip off, like I'd rip off like 16, and then with my 20 pound ball I was doing like twos because I was yeah, I couldn't move.
Speaker 2:My arms, my legs were shot, my lungs were shot, my arms were just shaking. So I was like thank you for letting me use your medicine ball when you're on the bike. And she, she thought it was hilarious. She was like you're doing great. And I like this is my fifth class. And then I remember later that day it was summertime, we had summer league basketball and we only had five kids, so I played the whole game and my team was like what's wrong with you? And I was like dude, I don't even know where to start. I was like I did all this stuff earlier and I was like you guys might not know what it is. I know what it is If you do great. I was like if you don't, you just think I'm talking crazy. I was like I did CrossFit and they were like huh. And I was like yeah, see, I was like I was like I worked out this morning and that's why I am playing absolutely terrible, yeah.
Speaker 1:That's why I can't get up and down the court or pick my arms up above my throughout that workout I'm just glad I made it to the game literally my first crossfit gym that I was a member of. That was their anniversary workout, kelly. So they do that every year, like in the springtime too, and just get destroyed by it that'll. That workout will tell you a lot about yourself, you know that'll tell you what your strengths and weaknesses are?
Speaker 1:you know, yes, no, for sure, we, we, we were talking like also about your MC career, right Like. So tell me what was the first CrossFit competition that you ever saw that you ever, like, attended in person?
Speaker 2:My first one I ever attended was well, I think the first one I ever saw and I didn't really know much about it was the Open. So, like that was like. That was like my first like competition experience, like seeing one. But the first comp I like ever did was it was at the same gym in salem. So this is where I started like coaching, competing, um, everything that I've done besides.
Speaker 2:I'm seeing um in this at this gym, and my first one it was called cougars and cradle robbers, um, which they still do. So it's a co-ed comp where it's one person's over 40, one person is under 40 and it can be any way. So it could be like female over 40, male over 40 or vice versa. And, um, I did it with this woman, this woman, debbie, who's still a member of the gym. She's awesome, she's a, she's a teacher in a small town, like next to Lynn, and she's been a member of that gym ever since it opened up in like 20, like 2007, and, um, she's like half my size too.
Speaker 2:So, like the workouts were like fun because like there's some synchro stuff we had to do, and it was like it was really good. But that was my first like time I ever did a competition, so we did scaled and it was a blast and it was like a really fun thing. But, like for me, I kind of like fired up, like a little bit of like the competitive feeling for me, because I'm like, oh, it's like this is like really cool, like I, you know, like most people in the comp like I pr to lift because I had all this adrenaline, like I was able to like do like a little bit more on like one workout than I did before, because I was like I was like what is this feeling like?
Speaker 2:I don't understand this and it was just like the feeling of being in like the competitive space, like pushing yourself and having people around you that like to push you and support you, but also like trying to chase someone and trying like to not be chased, you know, trying to like win basically in a way. So I got like obsessed with that and that was where I like kind of the bug came in for competing in CrossFit, where I continue with like some scaled comps, and then finally got to like RX comps and then I started to do individual competitions were more local ones, but I competed for probably like four years. I'd say like four years, and by competing I mean like I would do the open competitively, I would do, you know, local comps and stuff like individual ones, some online things.
Speaker 1:but that was like kind of like as far as I went, as far as I got with it yeah, how did the the team environment of like doing crossfit comps, like even local ones and partner ones, compared to doing like playing basketball right, like as a team?
Speaker 2:um, it was a much different feeling and what I, what I did like about it was like, as a like, when I grew up playing basketball, I put a lot of pressure on myself and there's a lot of pressure on us because there was like the spotlight and like I had opportunities with like colleges that were, like you know, smaller schools, you know no big, like division ones that were just like you know, offering like stuff like that. But it was an opportunity for me to like go and showcase it and it was like something that, like I like I played all year round, I like loved and I was obsessed with where for like the crossfit competition stuff, like that stuff started to come. It took a little bit to come to, but it was always like, hey, we're gonna go with, like this, you know, a competition here, the workouts it's entirely different than what I did for the last one and it's like you train and train and train up to it. That's a small window of training I got to do with certain people because we would go and do the comps together or it's like a partner competition. So it was. I always had another buddy or there's other people there with me that were going through the same thing the same wins and the same woes. If there's workouts are really hard, the same wins, but there's workouts are like really good for me and that helped because, like it created a lot more. It created a lot more camaraderie, which was something that like kind of lacked when I played basketball.
Speaker 2:It created a lot more of like it was. You know, the pressure was off because it felt like I was like being more supportive and not like I didn't have to to beat myself up, like I have to do this while I have to do this. Well, I was like I'm going to go, like this is going to be fun. You know, workout one maybe a little tough for me, but workout two is like in my wheelhouse and we'll see what happens with workout three, but like this is what we're going to do. Here's the plan and you know, I like my plans of going to do like whether it was a small comp or like a bigger individual one, and I had, you know, a lot of people who would help me out like training.
Speaker 2:You know, if I was like in class and they're like hey, if you're doing that comp next weekend, why don't you try this? And instead of this, like when we're doing this movement, like that type of stuff. You know, instead of using like a 50 pound dumbbell, let's try a has or like you know, why don't you try like touch and go with like a squat clean instead of like singles, because that's what, like what you're doing in the competition? So, like that kind of guidance definitely helped, because there was a lot of it and it was all very helpful, but also like helped like mold me as a coach before I became a coach and it, like you know, allowed me to kind of create like my way of like competing but also my way of like coaching, in a way hell yeah.
Speaker 1:So on that note, like how did that come about? Like how did you go from basketball player to crossfit coach and then full-time like gym manager and all that stuff? Were you ever a coach before? Like in your your teen days, did you ever like run basketball camps or anything like that?
Speaker 2:so I never, I never was a coach before until I started coaching, well, I at this coaching at this gym in salem, and crossfit I had, uh, that year so I was 21 when I got it I got my l1 and for like three or four months leading up to my l1, I was coaching, uh, boot camp classes. So it's class on the other side of the facility and it was very, very like traditional boot camp, like you know, warm-up kind of power exercises start like a main lift and then accessory, then like a short, like little finisher. So it was, like you know, kind of a twist on like traditional, uh, traditional strength conditioning. And then I think it was like february of 2020. So I've been coaching for seven years now. So 20, yeah, 2017, yeah, february of 2017 is when I got my l1 and um, then I like moved to the other side of the like, the other side of the floor, because it's a big open space like kind of turf and like boot camp on one side and cross on the other.
Speaker 2:And that was where, like, I was extremely excited because I well, I was the, the school I was going to, the owner of the whole facility was my department head, uh, major. So I studied exercise science at salem. Steve Dion and Brandy Dion were the owners of CrossFit Iron Spider and Steve Dion was the department head. So I interned there for a little bit and then when I got my L1, I started to work and coach there and it was just filling in like anytime. It was just anytime I could fill in. Hey, we'll have you take this class, let me take that one. And as I was filling in classes, I was helping with the intro classes we had at night. So it was 6.30pm on Tuesdays and Thursdays where it was a massive group of people and it was like a beginner's class. So if it was your very first day you can attend those classes for free. But also it was a combination of people that kept coming to those classes eventually got a membership and then some people that just like, hey, 6.30 is my only time. So the programming was the same for all throughout. It wasn't different because it was a beginner's time. But it was me and another kid who interned and then it was the head coach of the gym is named Gianni and it was us three. So we kind of like we.
Speaker 2:We coached those classes and, like my first experience of coaching CrossFit was like brand new people who had never done CrossFit before and I would be. I would always be the same joke, be like I'm new to. They're like I've never done this before and they're like really, and I'm like I'm not kidding, like I'm an intern. I just got my L1, you know, three weeks ago, and today we're gonna learn the snatch. That was how it went and it was great and like I remember teaching the snatches or like even cleans the first time. I'm like just do this, and then some people would do that or they'd be like what do you mean? And I'm like no, no, no, like this, like I no sense of progressions or anything. I was just like this is what it looks like.
Speaker 1:Start here, finish here, and they would just kind of either look at me crazy or they would just do a great, great and like two tries the pvc pipe and I'd be like cool barbells are over there, let's grab one of those.
Speaker 2:And it was like that already, exactly, yeah, go ahead, slap on some 45s, let's see what happens.
Speaker 1:Like shoot trial by fire. So what are some of the things that you learned from running those big classes with the brand new people and the mixture of the ogs that only had that time to get to um?
Speaker 2:so for at least back then, because I like would specifically be with the new people, I like learned how to like kind of take my time and slow it down and like, eventually I understood that, like, not all people learn at the same rate and some people might be, you know, have never done any type of physical fitness, or some people they've done every other type of fitness and they're like crossfit's. Like the one thing I haven't tried, I'd like to, and it was learning how to teach people in different ways and the coach would put the warm-up on and then go through the whole warm-up and I would just keep my eye on specific 2 to 3 people, while the other intern had their eye on 2 to 3 people. It's depending on how far along they've been at the gym with us. They've been there for a month or 2 months and eventually we take up the training wheels. And They've been there for a month or 2 months and eventually we take up the training wheels and then they're just coming to classes and they're integrated like every other member. But the brand brand new people were the ones that we were following around the whole time.
Speaker 2:But what really I learned was everybody learns in different rates and there's a million different ways to communicate. And it's similar to just queuing, where you can say, squeeze your butt 1000 times, but if they're not getting it, it you have to find a different way to say it. You have to find a different way to show it, you have to find a different way to get them to do it. And that was with like everything. And that's like everything, from hey, we're gonna grab pvc pipes to you know, hey, when you're in your deadlift position, I want to see you pull your shoulders back. This is where I want your hips to be like kind of guiding them that way.
Speaker 2:And it gave me like this, like style of like beginning to slow it down, but then just like taking my time with teaching things, because everyone learns at different rates, and it was almost like I learned at this rate, like I know, like when I'm being coached, if a coach comes over to me, like they can get real nitty gritty with me, but, granted, I just want their whole certification. You know I'm in school for this. I've been working out for a while. Some people come in and that's why I actually had this meeting with my coaches yesterday. When you're verbal queuing, keep it short and keep it actionable, keep it something that's so simple that they know nothing but to do what you said, because they're like, oh, that makes sense. And that was where I really learned my communication style of coaching and really just my communication style in general.
Speaker 1:That's awesome, like in 2024,. Right, like so much information is available to everyone. Right, it's like already out there. So like just having the information won't make you a good coach. Right, like it's exactly about how you communicate it to others and like what you do with it. Right, like, how do you keep refining your tool set to share information with other people when you you work with a lot of new coaches? Right, like doing coach development? What are some like traits that you look for in someone that wants to be a coach that will tell you like this person has a lot of potential? These are opportunities that I think they have to work on. Like, what do you look for in new coaches?
Speaker 2:I mean really the biggest thing to look for and like we're super lucky that we have it. It's just like like the will to just work hard, like the will that you know, coaching three classes in a row is really hard and that third class might be really tough. Class is the biggest thing that we can preach and we can do, because people like good people, they like nice people, they like fun people, but they want to learn and they want to grow and they want to get better. But if you're someone who is mundane, or someone who it sounds insulting but mundane, someone who like just goes through the motions, someone who just kind of shows up and you know is like you know, gets there at two minutes before class and then leaves 60 seconds after class, like that type of stuff, and that's like hit or miss. You know, sometimes I get it, we're busy, like we have like hour after hour. Like you know, sometimes I have clients right after class. I'm like, right, good job, boom, fist bumps, I gotta go over here, and like that. That's a lot of the people that we work with too, but it's always one of those things where it's like you may lack the knowledge, you may lack the expertise you may lack what you do in a specific class, but if you're willing to keep showing up, keep working at it, listening, going the extra mile to learn these things and understand these things the way that next time you come back you know a little bit more and you're a little bit better about it, then that is like all we can ask for as coaches.
Speaker 2:You know, because for, like I mean, as you know, like to be a CrossFit coach, you don't need like you don't need a degree. You don't need a degree in anything. You just need to pay the thousand bucks and show up for your L1. And I know a lot of CrossFit coaches who had an entirely different career. They had no knowledge in coaching or in fitness and then they just fell in love with CrossFit, with doing it. They were like I want to become a coach. And then they become full-time or part-time or they get more involved in the space and they just spent the time learning about how to become a better coach learning about movement, learning about you know communication with people, learning about different types of fitness, learning about Olympic weightlifting, gymnastics, learning about all types of CrossFit that you may see from, like you know, kids classes to the competitive level. So that's like the biggest thing that like we, you know, even just for like hiring coaches in the space anywhere, that's like the biggest thing that people look for, I think.
Speaker 1:For sure, people that are going to create buy-in because they are wholeheartedly committed to it, right, exactly To it, from start to finish, like the coaches that I call like a clock starter coach, people that are just there to start the clock for the workout. You know they they just kind of weeded themselves out already on their own, so back our, our MC. Talk, right, like what makes you pick up the microphone. What's the first comp that you ever did that at for space you or event you've ever did that at?
Speaker 2:tell us about that so my very first comp I ever did was the Invictus Boston Invitational and that wasn't that was right in the middle of 2020. So that was like in the heat of things with covid. We had to do the whole event outside and it was burn prince that runs the exhibitational. He's done a fantastic job. Yeah, shout out to burn. He's done a fantastic job the last five years and he actually has his first team comp this upcoming saturday that I'll be at too.
Speaker 2:Um called the champion champion city classic, so we that was my very first time doing it so he wanted to run um a competition in the middle of covid and really what the invitational is like. It's about like inclusivity in the sports. Like people of all you know ages, size, abilities, different ethnicities they can come into the sport and have this one place where they can like showcase their abilities and it's a safe space and people are going to support you and that's like he's done a really good job of that. So it started off in 2020 and it was outside Cause it was right in the middle of COVID. It was June, no July, sorry, july of 2020. And when he was sending out like assignments. So basically I told him that I was like hey, I was like whatever you want me to do, let me know. I was like just told him like one day at work I was like I'll be there. I was like I'll judge equipment, you let me know.
Speaker 2:I didn't even know being an MC was a thing at the time and he sent out an email. He was like here are the assignments. And I saw it. It was like cam MC. And I was like oh, and I was like he wants to give me a microphone. I was like I remember I was like Bernieie, you sure? And he was like of course I am, so I just took it and I ran with it. I had no like prior experience and like I feel like it took me a little bit to like understand like the importance of the mc, because I remember just being like I never even like I don't even know what the mcs are saying and any of the cops that I've done before, like I don't even know if I hear them like you know, because you're, you know, deep danger zone, your workout.
Speaker 1:I don't even know if I hear. I hear three.
Speaker 2:I hear three, two, one go, three, two, one stop, Like that's what.
Speaker 1:I hear yeah, and then that's it yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's it. Um, so that was my very first comment. It was all outside Um beautiful day, super hot, so I got like super sunburned because I was just running around running my mouth on a mic and I had a ton of fun with it.
Speaker 2:It was, uh, two workouts, one that involved cleans and echo bike and then another one that was like burpees, dumbbells and rowing, so it was very much like something you can do like outside in the horse stall mat. It was really good programming for kind of the circumstances and um, it was great, like we caution taped off the whole area. We had like a bunch of mats laid out and that was like the very first invitational and he invited. He invited people from everywhere and basically it was like if you could safely get there during covid, you could and um, there's a lot of people from like local gyms, most most people from invictus. And then it just grew into like a much bigger, like so, like a much bigger, like so, much cooler, like event like he's done, like you know, elite divisions in rx, you know he's done masters, he's done teams, he's doing teams again, like so it's kind of done like everything.
Speaker 2:But it's that was my very first event, my first experience I'm seeing, and I I fell in love with it. But there was like no other opportunities because it was covid. So I basically just waited until the next year and I did it again. And then I think it was my third time doing the invitational, where I was like I'm gonna try and see you know where else I can get to with this. I'm gonna try and see if there's like other places that like want an mc for a comp or like I'm gonna see like what I can get out of this.
Speaker 1:And it's been a pretty wild journey ever since, if I'm being honest hell yeah, dude, did you prepare at all for the invitational, since that was your first one? Like what were you doing in the days leading up?
Speaker 2:honestly, the only way I prepared for it was I had a buddy that lived down the street and I was like yo, I need your sun hat.
Speaker 1:I need your like cowboy hat it was like a cowboy sun hat.
Speaker 2:That was my only preparation. I was like it was a friend of mine, zach, who I lived in Brighton it's right outside of Boston and he lived right down the street and I was like, all right, cool, I was like that's it. And then he gave me the sheets. Like I knew who was in what lane, like I knew what the workouts were, and I kind of like I was like, just you know, call the action, say what people are doing, like look at the clock right and just make sure the clock's right, and that I was just like just have fun with it and I just remember I was like don't talk too much, which is hard for me sometimes and I was like, but don't.
Speaker 2:I was like don't. I was like don't be silent. And I just had fun with it. I would go in the crowd and find random people and just be like what did you think? And then, just like, put the mic in their face. They're like oh, like, you know, just it was so cool and I'm like it wasn't it.
Speaker 1:And I just walked away. I'm like all right that was it it was pretty cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, pair than like compared to what I do now. Back then I just like showed up and I was like just made sure I was, I was able to speak that's.
Speaker 1:That's legit, though, dude, that's awesome. So then you gotta wait for like covid to cool off a little bit, right like you, for the world to open back up and stuff. What's the next event you do?
Speaker 2:that's not the invitational um, I did two uh, so I did um one summer I did it was called fight the darkness, so it was actually at the gym that I work at now before I started working there. So I was working at a, uh, another gym in a different town in mass uh, before I started that spark um, where I am now and I would, uh, I get in trouble if I didn't mention it, but that's where I met my girlfriend of two years that I live with now. Uh, her name's kate. She's the best, um, my boss and one of my really good friends, kelly. She was there and I messaged her and I told her I was like, hey, it was like I'd love to come volunteer. If you'd love me to be on the mic, I will, but if not, like I'll come judge or I'll come hang out.
Speaker 2:Because it was, uh, we still do this contest day. It is a fundraiser for um families that have been impacted by alz's, so they help with, like, the funds for, you know, treatment and for you know, housing for, like, assisted living housing and stuff. So it's a local foundation and it was something that kind of impacted a lot of people at the gym. So we started this fundraiser and it was competition every July. So I reached out to her and she's like, oh my God, you got to come down. And she was like you'll, she's like we'd love to have you on the mic. And she was like we can tell you my boss, she's like we can split it and like do some other stuff because, like they need help with judging whatnot. But I stayed on the mic the whole time and I just remember they gave me like a like a headset, like a spin studio headset, which is great and then like a fanny pack with like my notes in it and I was like I peaked.
Speaker 2:I was like this is peak MCing right now. I had this like headset on, like my fanny pack here and it was super fun, but it was a little nerve wracking at first, cause it was like an entirely different environment than what I I've been used to.
Speaker 2:And it was a lot different, like it wasn't different like competitors, like I knew a lot of the people that competed, cause it was all local gyms that I had, um, I had known and I had friends at but it I knew like where to be, like I knew what I was looking for. But here I just kind of showed up like learned the workouts that morning, like got the teammates that morning, just kind of read through and it was great. It was so much fun and, um, it was a really, really good time. We still do the comp to this day um three years running and it's a huge success. So so that was my. That was like my next one after the invitational. Um, yeah, that was my next one.
Speaker 1:That's dope Frickin. I love those headphones, those like overhead things man. The way I got my start in fitness. The first thing that I did like trainer certifications was like the Les Mills, like a body pump kind of stuff in like commercial gyms and you got to and you got to. You gotta like film yourself working people through a routine with no one in front of you. You get the freaking overhead thing. Man, I'll think about getting another one.
Speaker 2:Those things are cool we we still use them for our, for our studio classes too, upstairs, because it's like, uh, it's a little bit like a louder room, the music's a little louder and it's like we have like all these different like color, like not strobe lights, like different color lights, so it's a really cool environment and, um, the headset just makes it. It honestly makes it easy for like them to coach upstairs in that kind of environment, and I've even seen some crossfit gyms that are like, that are like so lucky to be as big as they are that they need to use a headset to like reach people in the room, which is crazy, and I'm like that it works well.
Speaker 1:It's a great, great tool I love that freaking, like not limiting yourself to like, hey, this is how every other gym does it. Like growing, yeah, right back to that scaling up thing that we were talking about from before. You know, yeah, so tell us like it's been like four years now. Tell us like some highs and lows of being an mc. Like what's some of your favorite moments where you're out on the floor with the mic in your hand? What are some some of your moments where you're like, oh man, I said something pretty dumb right there.
Speaker 2:You know you don't have to go into full detail, but tell us yeah, there's, you know I've been lucky where there's definitely a lot of highs and like the lows are like just as you said. Like sometimes you get mixed up, like missing a call, when, like somebody like wins a heat, or like you you're saying the wrong team name and then like the team that's winning is like a different you know team name, and then you're like, oh, it's like kind of awkward after that but like, yeah, like I, that's something I really focused on like getting better. But like some of the biggest highs that I've had are local stuff is great because, like I get to see like my friends compete and I got to see how hard they train and like building up to it. And one of the one of the local events I've emceed at three times it's called the southy showdown and that is a local competition where I that was like my crossfit games when I competed. That was like what I trained to do, so it was really cool to go back. Yeah, it's a huge event and it was really cool to go back and be in that environment in a different way and like see people that are like coming there and like they work their ass off and they've trained so hard for it and like seeing like the rewarding feeling and like being able to like hype them up on the mic and they're like you know it, just kind of that's like the whole purpose of it. It's like the hype people up, just like keep people like in the know, like what's going on. But it's also like I love when there's big lifts going on, and at Southie, when there's big lifts and you call people's names, everyone's watching. I'm going to get fired up. It's just such a good feeling. So that's locally some of the biggest highs and biggest highlights. But I would have to say a lot of the bigger events that I've done in other places.
Speaker 2:Wadapalooza and Metconrush are two events that I did. Metconrush was the very first like event that hired me. They were, um, the first event in maryland that hired me. Um, tim and becca who run it. They own a gym cross with three. I want to leave and they are just shout out to tim and becca. They are fantastic humans and they do a phenomenal job of Metcon Rush. I've done it twice now and they were the first ones that I had a phone call with Tim and it was just kind of one of those scenarios where I messaged Tim on the Instagram their Instagram page.
Speaker 2:I was like, hey, if you're looking for an MC, I'd love to chat. And he was like dude, our other MC just canceled this morning. He was can you hop on a call tomorrow at like two and I was like, yes, I was like I booked it, blocked it up. I went outside and he was like we'd love to have you come down, let's go, can you? Can you come down this day and stay till this day? Like you know, hotel blah, blah, like this is what we'll do. And I was like lord, I would like remember just being like, oh, my god, I'm so excited.
Speaker 2:And that kind of like opened up the floodgates where I got asbury park after it was actually asbury park was the week before metcon rush.
Speaker 2:But metcon rush like kind of hired me first and then I was able to go to like asbury park from that and then I met other people at other comps.
Speaker 2:But metcon rush is like the competition that like I hold on to, like so close to my heart, because that's like what really you know, on top of the invitational, like giving me the opportunity to be on the mic and being able to showcase this and being able to like basically discover that I was like I'm good at this and I love it and this is something I want to pursue. Metcon rush kind of put me in that stage with like people where I was with, like you know, big name elite athletes, and it was like a big professional setting. You know the whole, like two stages and like the different floors and like the whole like professional, like everything runs to a t, like here's like all the information you need, like the me, like this is a staff shirt. I was like wow, I was like the whole, it was just like so it was, it was a, it was a professional event that like let's go it's like the real deal.
Speaker 2:It's the real deal. It was like the big leagues and I'm like forever grateful for them, because once I had that opportunity, that was like okay, I think I can do this, I think I can go and MC anywhere really. And that eventually led me to Wadapalooza, because the week before Metcon Rush, I was at Asbury Park so he runs Loud and Live, he runs Waterpalooza and he was like I'd love to have you come down. So Asbury Park is the same thing too, where it gave me the confidence, where I was like I think I can do this anywhere. I was able to work with Dylan, who gave me good feedback because we've been doing it for years. He's one of the best ever to do it.
Speaker 2:And it was like this back-to-back weekends in August, where I was like like I am really good at this. I was like I, I love it. It's something that I want to do every weekend if I could. And you know, one event turned to two, two events into three, and then, all of a sudden, I'm in miami at wadapalooza, and I'm, you know, in the middle of flagler stadium, or I'm on tina hills, or I'm like I'm on a, I'm on a dock in the middle of the ocean while people are slamming, slamming worms and swimming, and I'm like running my mouth on the mic.
Speaker 2:It was like such a surreal feeling to be able to get all these opportunities and like all these different places. They all are run by really really good people who care about the sport and who care about the athletes and care about the community and it's really fun to be a part of that because it is something that still, like it still allows for crossfit to like have the name that it does like what people started crossfit for. You know, everyone starts crossing for a reason. But like those athletes and like these events really show like how, how much of like a bond like the community has all over the world, and like crossfit's their common language and competing is their common language and being together is like a beautiful thing to see and like being able to be on the mic and be on the floor, for that is just a feeling that has very hard to replicate. It's, it's awesome, it's really is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's sick, dude. Like keep chasing the dream, you know, like it, it makes it so like it never goes away, right like the, the flame keeps growing, you know it does, it does and it's like I hope it never stops.
Speaker 2:I truly like it's something I want to pursue forever and just be able to keep doing and, like you said, the flame keeps growing and I just wanted to grow until it can't anymore, and that's what we're doing.
Speaker 1:Were you working this past weekend? Were you at a fight for the fittest? I?
Speaker 2:was. I was down to fight for the long island. Um, shout out to sam and kelly. They're also fantastic people. Um, they work super hard in this event and it was really cool to be there because it was at the suffolk federal credit union arena and, yeah, it was, uh, suffolk community college, so it's like their big arena. They had two stages and they just like outdid themselves. It was, I mean, everyone that they had on the staff was great. Sam and kelly put so much like work into it and so much heart and it showed you know throughout and everyone just had such a good time.
Speaker 2:The events were really fun. They were really fun to watch, really fun to call. They had a lot of like different ranges of athletes that had scaled. They did teams, they did I don't know what else they did or teams of four, they did teams of two, they did like I don't know what else they did. Or Team to Four, they did Team to Two. They did like Elite Division, rx Division, they did like a kind of a whole bunch of different divisions and whatnot, and so that was cool to see. Like, that's like also like a really fun thing about competitions, like there's so many different levels of like ability and to showcase it, kind of like giving everyone the big stage and giving everyone the big floor and allowing them to showcase their abilities like all, in the same way as like the scale does for elite and fight for the fitness did a really good job of that yeah, it's awesome.
Speaker 1:It looked like it was uh like a best year yet, you know, like definitely their biggest year and it was like everyone had a great time. Uh, I wasn't just gonna say that when, when comps and events can pull off, the like community vibe, where, like both the elite teams or individuals are going and, like the, the community scaled and intermediate groups, like it's always a great thing to see, you know it is yeah, yeah, and that's like the bit the important part too where it's like a lot of like, a lot of people like come to see the elite because it's, you know, their opportunity to see the best in the sport.
Speaker 2:And that's an amazing thing to see because the sport has grown so much in that way where you get to see some like unreal stuff. Like we we had a kid, joe piero, who's hang snatched 300 pounds and it was awesome. It was crazy. He hang snatched 300 pounds twice. It was part of a complex and he missed the second set, unfortunately, um, but he still he hang snatched 300 pounds and like that was just like a weekend in long island where he was with some buddies and just wanted to have fun where like think of like how much more, like on the bigger stage, like how much more the sport has to grow when you have those like those moments and even like for scale, like scales, was doing like synchro toes the bar and like had pull-ups and was like using like heavier weights and it's like this is awesome because like it's like the sport is like people are getting fitter, people are getting better and they're showcasing their abilities, that they are, that they are getting fitter.
Speaker 2:People are getting better and they're showcasing their abilities that they are getting better, that they are getting fitter, and it's a really cool thing to see.
Speaker 1:For sure, Dude, anytime you see a 300 pounds going to barbell for a snatch it's going to be electric in that building. You know it's awesome. Yeah, that was a cool moment. So the last few questions here. First nonsense fitness question. Right, Tell me, what do you think is the most impressive for a guy like to be able to do um a 400 pound front squat, a sub six minute mile or 10 strict rank muscle-ups unbroken?
Speaker 2:I gotta say I think the strict muscle-ups unbroken 10, strict, strict. I got to say that I think that requires the most strength and skill and body awareness and ability than running and squatting. I mean, being able to squat 400 pounds is crazy and either way, being able to run a sub six mile is incredibly impressive. But like a muscle.
Speaker 1:All displays of athleticism like, for sure, exactly All displays of athleticism strength, mobility.
Speaker 2:You know displays of athleticism, like for sure, yes, exactly all displays of athleticism strength, mobility. You know skill. Everything is um is all. Yes, I would say the time strict muscle ups.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah, I've been asking this question for like a few weeks now, right, like trolling people with the answers all running bias, like for the, the muscle up is they probably came to your gym and they learned it there that day. Where, like, if somebody doesn't have a gymnastics bias, maybe they have some like you know, some like previous notion and so being able to do muscle ups and like good pulling strength and pressing strength, but that's something where, like, that takes a lot of time to learn. And now it's like you know, like the gymnastics is the hardest thing. It's like you, you get your first, then it's all right, let's try to get two in a row, now three, now four, and then the higher you go.
Speaker 1:And now we're up to 10. That's what I'm saying. Now we're up to 10, yeah.
Speaker 2:The more efficiency and the more strength is required.
Speaker 1:it's pretty impressive that person put some time in for sure. So next question that I ask everybody man, what are you hungry for right now? What's motivating?
Speaker 2:you Really what you really was motivating me is just to just keep on just doing what I'm doing for my people that I love.
Speaker 2:You know I am very close to my family and my girlfriend of two years that I live with, um, and I just want to keep. You know, getting better in everything that I do in order to just be better for them is always my thing, like I like to be. I want to be good for the people around me because I want them to be good too, so that the biggest thing with that is just like becoming a better person. We'll put it overall being a nicer guy when I can, being a better coach, you know, trying to be a helping hand when I can, um, you know, with these mc gigs, just reaching out and trying to get to places as often as possible when it makes sense, when the time's's right. But, like you know, what motivates me is that I'm super fortunate to have the people around me. That I do, and you know I want to be the best for myself so I can be the best for them, and that's what motivates me, you know, the most in all my aspects in life that I do.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah, dude, you got to work on yourself, right, so you can help other people. You know, that's right, that's right. Do the work at home. Well, it's been a great episode man Talking, chatting, all about old school CrossFit stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thank you. Thank you, I really appreciate you having me on. I'm excited that excited for this to come out.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah, dude Dogs out there. Thanks for tuning in, Cam. Where are you at next man? Where are you at next man? Where are people going to see you, do you have?
Speaker 2:anything to post. So just this upcoming weekend, October 5th, I'll be at Invictus, the Champion City Classic, and then after that I'll keep you posted, We'll see. We'll see what happens. Maybe not until next year, you know it's going to be quiet down a little bit, but until then I'll just be coaching at Spark in Andover. Shout out to my spark fam, my, my Andover CrossFit fam, you guys are the best and just and just be kicking it here and having a good time.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah Well, all right, dude. Thanks again for coming on. I'm going to cut off this recording here. Dogs out there. Thanks for listening, Peace. See you later.