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Andrew Reimon 25.1 & The Vitruvian Games
Andrew Reimon back on the podcast to talk about last year Vitruvian Games and looking forward to the upcoming event !
Plus 25.1 announcement , workout break down and more! Tune in and be on the lookout for early bird registration to The Vitruvian Games
What's up, dogs? This is T the Kid and we're back with another Hungry Dog Barbell Podcast episode. This week I got Andrew Ramon back on third time coming on the show and he's back to talk the True Read Games 2025, and also the CrossFit Open Workout 25.1. It's another great conversation. I hope you guys enjoy the episode. Peace, what up brother? How are you? I'm good man. How are you Doing good? Just recovering after tackling the workout. Dude, did you throw down on it already?
Speaker 2:No, not yet. I'm going to do it tomorrow. I got to catch up on some sleep, I hear that.
Speaker 1:I hear that, bro, so let's dive right into the episode in a second here. But yeah, dude, so let's talk about this.
Speaker 2:Open is officially here for 2025. First, how many opens have you done? Uh, did you get your little badge yet? No, they keep jipping me out of this stupid badge, man, I keep. Last year this is the same thing. I got it like three weeks late. Uh, I think this is gonna be my ninth. Either my ninth or tenth oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this should be my tenth there. I skipped it for two years and it registered when I was like in between CrossFit gyms and other stuff. But this is my eighth one registering and doing the Open. It's crazy.
Speaker 2:Nice. Yeah, this is actually my ninth now that I think about it, because the one year that they tried to do the two epic fail. That year I did not do the Open, I think, because that was also the year where I had to like just you know how it goes to just focus on the gym and get that up and running. I hear that.
Speaker 1:But uh, yeah, yeah, the open will be like a huge ordeal. Here, you know, I got some other things, like other event type stuff I'm going to do like to celebrate the members that we have in the beginning, uh, but just like you said, man, you can't focus on putting your all into everything all at once. You know, dude, on that, on that note, with the year they did two opens, like I. I was thinking about that when I, when I looked at the badges and stuff and I did both of those it was like a february and october and I'm like how the I was like I feel like I should have more. This is this is weird, because that was the year that they had to freaking, choose your own adventure with the muscle ups, and I definitely did that.
Speaker 2:Yes, that was tough what a workout that was, you know.
Speaker 1:I wonder if they'll bring it back, maybe a repeat well, he said right, it's gonna be in the 2020s, in this era, the past five years, the repeat workout we'll get to that one. We'll talk about, like your predictions for the rest of the workout and stuff a little bit later on. But, dude, let's talk about 25.1 right now. Like you started crossing around at the same time as me, right? I'm sure you're a big froning fan boy, just like I am. How did you feel about the open announcement itself?
Speaker 2:I liked it. Um, if I'm gonna probably get ripped apart for this, but if I uh, I'm like 100. Honest, I thought that the um, the fire call might have been a little staged. I don't know from his reaction, it just looked like I mean like uh I I'll say, I definitely thought I thought it did too.
Speaker 2:You know, yeah, so, like, one of our coaches is a battalion chief, uh, jay city, and, um, when he gets a call for a fire, he literally drops everything and sprints out the door. Yeah, right, so, uh, anyway, that's just being like really nitpicky. I think that the that the announcement was really cool. I'm glad that they did it, um, at mayhem. I think that's pretty nice. I I kind of also wish they did it at a smaller box that's not well known. Yeah, just because that would give a more community type feel. Or hey, like we're doing this open announcement at, like I don't know, some crossfit gym in, uh, spain or something, something like out there. You know, yeah, like castro.
Speaker 1:Castro, I think, is doing that kind of on his own. You know like he's going around a bunch of different boxes. I know you posted and said that he was at the one that had like two boxes in one building, which justin and I were talking about just seems insane, like an absolute headache.
Speaker 1:You know, if you could get it rolling, then power to you, but at the very beginning it seems like it would be a monster of a task to try to undertake. But I feel like he's doing that more. You know, going to boxes that have like 70, 80 members, you know 60, like some of the small ones, but they do got to highlight it. Maybe maybe we'll see into the next two, but I saw that I guess I never put this together the gym that has the most registrations for the open, like at the start, they usually do the announcements there the next year and I read that in the comments somewhere. So I'll take that for the gospel, but that's what I read, yeah.
Speaker 2:Interesting. Yeah, yeah, I wonder I got to look back at the metrics because I think CrossFit Bison had, like a lot of members.
Speaker 1:This year, this year, this year, but I think it's from last year, you know. But yeah, I saw bison rdt freaking out, jersey shout out to uh, dave lorenzo out there. I went to high school with him. He had a bunch of members. Oh nice, damn bro, that's crazy. Yeah, you know. But yeah, so keep going, tell us about it. Like, what do you think about froning? Throw it down in it. You know, uh, austin, with the no reps, we'll finding that out afterwards dude, I was watching.
Speaker 2:I'm like yo, this guy's gonna get destroyed with no reps but uh no, dude, I think it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2:I like that froning. Uh, you know he threw down with everyone. I think everyone, no matter where you are in cross, say you somehow know of rich froning. And, uh, you know, matt frazier, josh brit, is those guys like the ogs. But um, I think it it's a testament to show like you should still be doing the open, no matter a how old are you and what skill level you are. Right, yeah, and signing up, especially if you're like an affiliate owner. It's kind of disappointing seeing some affiliate owners like you know it is what it is. They. They could uh have their own opinions on how they should celebrate fitness, and that's cool. I mean, I don't judge anyone by anything, but you know, if you're going to be paying an affiliate fee, you might as well, just you know, do the open I mean 20 bucks for the open 10 bucks.
Speaker 1:If you want to put a team, you don't even have to do that yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, look, people are going to do whatever they want, and rightfully so, like whatever. It's cool. I know a bunch of my friends aren't doing the open and you know we still talk every day, so I'm going to change my view on them or whatever yeah, it's their decision, but I think that it really showed that everyone in one big community, even something as big as mayhem, and come together and have like a really great celebration of fitness, which eventually is you know what the open really is, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was cool when they they talked about the spirit of the open award there too with like one of their OG members, like that was like a real thing, you know and those people would give it their real responses and the real like emotions and how they felt about stuff.
Speaker 1:So that was also like really cool to see. So what do you think about the workout itself? Man, like I'll tell you I mean I know all the first workouts are usually like the capacity tests and stuff like that I thought it was even more boring than boring had already been. I did the workout, I liked it as a fitness workout, you know, but it just felt like I don't know, it lacked a little bit of luster and I guess it's been like that for the first workouts for the past few years. Um, I feel like when you have three tests I mean you're a comp event director, you know like when you're only doing three different tests, it's a very short window of things to like give people the magic and the tests and stuff like that. But so what do you? What do you think of the workout itself?
Speaker 2:yeah, I agree, man, I think that a lot of people can disagree with this also that, uh, you know we should test five weeks for the open, um, back in the day, right, but with the caveat that you know the general open will be three weeks, and then what kind of like what they try doing with the games, if you, let's say, top, you go on to the next two weeks of the open, you get to do one more, and then the next last week, the fifth week, cuts down again. I think that's a good way to do it so that people can say, oh, this year I want to get to week four of the open, this year I want to get to the next to week four of the open.
Speaker 2:Uh, this year I want to get to week five, and then it kind of also incentivizes paying, you know, 20 bucks.
Speaker 1:I was gonna say, would you do from from the logistics side, would you do, uh, multiple different pricing tiers, like would you you pay 20 for the first three weeks, then if you make it to the next one, another five, another five or just 20 for everyone, and if you make it, you make it yeah I think 20, you know, because then, bless you, it gets complicated, bless you, um, it gets complicated.
Speaker 2:And then you know how people are like, oh, I gotta pay again all that stuff, right, right, even with semi, with, uh, quarterfinals. I was kind of annoying like we had to pay 50 bucks to, I know, semifinals or quarterfinals it did.
Speaker 1:So I'm a big proponent. If you're going to do the crossfit open workouts, just sign up for it. You know I don't. I don't love what people, I don't really like what people um do the workouts that don't sign up for it. You know, especially if you do it like vrx or the scaled, either one of the definite versions like just, I mean I don't want to act like $20 cannot make or break people, but it's $20, you know, pay for that.
Speaker 1:But I did understand a lot of people that made quarterfinals and would do the workouts maybe 75% of them, maybe all of them. And when it pay that $50, you know to go onto it. But I really liked that people had that goal to shoot for right, like when it was the top 10%, you know. And then it's like all right, it's a more elite challenge, the open is kind of just for fun. And then you fall where you fall when it goes to 25, while there may be a big drop off I've said this plenty on this podcast, man, like I've said to people and watch their responses when I'm like, hey, you're 1% away, that's, that's four more reps in this workout.
Speaker 1:You know if you push a little bit harder. You know when it's two and three and their responses to it you know. So it's a good goal to shoot for the community cup. Hopefully you're a little bit more informed about it, cause I'm about to ask you when is that? Is that after the semifinal season? What does that come up for people? Cause I know everyone has to do the open to be able to qualify for that and that's supposed to be a mini, you know, like quarterfinals, that kind of thing. Do you know what that is?
Speaker 2:no, man, honestly I have no idea. I didn't do any real research, uh, on a community cup, um, someone asked me about it. One of the members asked me about it the other day. Couldn't really give him a good answer. I feel that yeah, it's just. I guess many things, man, it's all up in the air.
Speaker 1:You know what I do. I just get all my shit from Jen from Dense Updates on Instagram there. She's the one that told me where to get the badges at too. I'll send you that link over. You can download it yourself before they even send it to you, because they send it to you. Are you like me? Did you register like just right now? I registered this morning, like after I did the workout, and then just put my score in.
Speaker 2:You know I'm a huge nerd man. I registered the first day it was open.
Speaker 1:Really, that's funny, I'm surprised I didn't send that shit out to you too. Crossfit, you've got to get better at that shit, man. I would think the earlier you register, the sooner they send it out to you. You know, yeah, maybe I just missed it. I don't yeah, but so uh what? What is uh the? What do you guys do for the open over at your gym, right, like you guys do friday night lights? When are you going to tackle it, like break down all that stuff down to me?
Speaker 2:yeah, so we do, uh, friday night lights. Um, we try and do a big every year. Uh, this year we're going to have a different brand or different company sponsored each week. So, uh, today we're going to have, um, this local, uh, physical therapist him and his other physical therapist that works with him started a protein supplement company, so we're gonna have them come out. They'll show their product, they'll give us samples and stuff. You know, small, small business, sporting, small business. Um, the next week I think we're gonna have uh, you might know them physical with jay. Oh, hell, yeah, uh, yeah, we're gonna have them come out and then either the third week or the second week, and then one of those weeks we're gonna have a grilled cheese truck. Just come by and what? Give us some good stuff. Yeah, um, that's what we do.
Speaker 2:Heats, you know, I think today we're gonna do 20 minute heats, um, not like super strict, because you know people just give people that they tend to uh, yeah, they tend to like be late and stuff like that. So we're going to try to go every 20 minutes. Get that five minute buffer, get mentally prepared and all that stuff. Yeah, um, and as for me, I'll probably do it tomorrow. Just got to catch up on sleep and you know friday night lights in the past for me and what my goals are. I haven't been very conducive. Just because it's extreme and you know how it goes. Uh, it's very stressful, um, organizing people, getting people in the right lanes, saying the workouts 20 times and people still don't know what they're doing. It's like you know, all these, all these little things add up. You know it puts a lot of stress on your body and your mind. So, yeah, tomorrow I'll hit it be uh, yeah focused, focusing on it.
Speaker 1:I love that, bro. The you know workout really gave me shit, man. The uh, I think that was 22 or 23 the shuttle run and the burpee pull-ups dude. Oh my god, I was a kid then that you know those high bars that cross the kop, like the ones like 11 feet up in the air, and then the women's is like too low for you to do burpee pull-ups too. So the first day me jumping my ass all the way up to that high bar, I died. And then by the afternoon we set up this like mat setup, like it looked like a mattress on the floor for people to like be able to take some of the jump away. Man, but explaining all this shit to people was terrible. Oh my god, I'm. I will say, while I'm not a huge fan of them dumbing down some of the open workouts recently, I do like the simpler layouts you know, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:This was nice because the way my gym set up I was able to uh kind of stagger the heats, so like one one goes here, the other one goes here, and then there's a middle line where the 15 foot mark was and you can lunge and you'll never run into someone. So I could have like think up to like 14 people gone at the same time, which is like pretty nice, especially from from our standpoint, like an affiliate owner standpoint.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's big. You're not there till like 12 PM, 12 AM, yeah, literally. And then the workout that had the rowing and power cleans and ended with the muscle ups, like that was like the last year of the bad kind of setups. They had the one tape line that was like pretty bad enough, you know, glad that they moved away from stuff like that. So with this kind of workout, though, tell us first, like, how are you going to approach it? You know, are you going to try to go guns blazing from the get-go, like Justin Madero said back in the day, like start hot, finish hot, stay hot in the middle? Is that what you're going to be, your strategy? Or like someone controlled.
Speaker 2:Uh, I don't know, man, um, I'm thinking about this as like for my swimmers in the audience, probably doing like a 500 meter swim, uh, or 500 yards fun. Um, start out easy speed and then just build the middle middle part, probably from like zero to three minutes easy speed and then from three to 12 maintain and then the last three minutes just send it. Uh, I've seen some scores already online. I'm kind of bummed out because I don't want to see anyone's um scores. But, uh, you know, I think I think it's a great test, man, I, I like it. I expected this exact type of workout because people were stressing out, um, my members this week, and they were like you know, what do you think it's gonna be? It's a snatch. This I'm like no, it has to be something that everyone's gonna be able to do, everyone can buy into, because they need signups. Whoever is like, oh, I could do bodyweight lunges, they're definitely gonna sign up.
Speaker 1:I have three members today that just signed up yeah, yeah, I'll have that too, you know, yeah, it's uh, it's uh. I think it's a little bit different than the last two style of first weeks, because the lunge is such a recovery Like usually we'll get. Like the third movement is a box jump over or it's just a couple of the back and forth, like the dumbbell snatch and the burpee over the dumbbell. That's like a race race, you know, like the lunge you could kind of race through, but it's only so fast. You're going to go through 30, 30 foot lunge with a turnaround and it stayed up all the way in the middle of those.
Speaker 1:But yeah, it's mostly that same style of workout, bro, and it felt like that because I mean, I'm looking over at the clock, I got through the nines, I think, man, probably under six minutes, and I'm like dude, I got so much left to go.
Speaker 1:And even when I was at the 18s, I'm like dude, I got five and a half minutes on the clock, like I'm definitely gonna get through these. I'm gonna have to do 21 burpees, you know, like it's that kind of test where you're like damn, like I fuck, I'm gonna be moving for a while here. So I liked it, I loved it as a workout. Um, and I and I'm I'm definitely glad about what we're saying right now. Right, like I'm going to get some people at least two girls that are going to come to the new, that we're going to do the workout but not sign up are definitely going to sign up now you know, like why wouldn't I put myself on the leaderboard at that standpoint? So it's good, you know, I feel like there's we don't always got to hate on CrossFit. That could be the right decision.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean look not to veer from the past that we're on, but things happened this summer. It was a shame, and there's a lot of negativity towards CrossFit, but there also should be some positives. Right, we should also try and point out the positives that they're doing. They have a lot of new councils coming up. They have a lot of different changes that they made that people aren't really speaking about, so you got to commend them for it and also something like this. This, I think, is very positive. You know, you got a good workout in for the first week of the open and then you're able to celebrate fitness and then hopefully, we won't get something too terrible next week either.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like I mean, I was a little bit worried. I was back and forth like, okay, do I want to program the workout as the workout for friday? You know, like I kind of got to make that decision earlier in the week because it's going to affect the rest of my programming. Like, all right, even if people don't want to sign up for the open, they want to get a good workout in. And if I put it on friday, that's like one of the most attended days like, uh, you know, and then this comes up, I'm like that's a good workout, like everyone would be able to get something out of this. You can push really, really hard and, you know, great, get a great score. You could do the workout with some intensity and still get a great workout in, you know. So I, I think it's, I think it's a, at least a b plus maybe an a on the workout if I had to give it a grade, you know, yeah no, I agree so on to other things here going on with your life, bro.
Speaker 1:You, let's talk about last summer, right, but true v games. Am I saying that correct?
Speaker 2:I want to make sure I said it right, yeah, you got it.
Speaker 1:It was one day last year elite comp. When was the date? Break it down to me like a little bit more here. Tell me how it went, like all the stuff honestly, I forgot the date. I think it was august, I think it was august 24th, sometime in august.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it think it was August 24th, sometime in August. Yeah, yeah, it was great man, I had a great time. I think it went very smooth. At least a lot of the athletes said that they thought it went very smooth. They were I think 98% were very satisfied with the competition, based on the surveys we sent out. That's awesome.
Speaker 2:A few little mishaps here and there that were my fault. I kind of overthought them, and scoring was a little bit of a challenge towards the end, just because we had to kind of have one of the volunteers take over. She's a CPA and she's good with numbers, but the program that we were using, for some reason, just wasn't wasn't doing the scores correctly. Yeah, we had like a few miscommunications with the judges and the corral team, but you know, that's why it's so important to have a great team backing you. You, you know, uh, people at my gym are always very like bought into anything that we do, um, and they're, you know they, they step up to the plate. They were like yo, andrew, like what do you need? How do we do this? Like what's the most efficient way? Like let's pause for a second, and all these things. And you know we ended up running something pretty damn good. Um, the first time I was running something on my own to that magnitude, so it was a learning curve for me as well, but, uh, I think, stepping away from that, I think this year will be immensely better.
Speaker 2:Um, hell, yeah, you know that that competition went very smooth back in august. Uh, like I, we had Colton Mertens come out, put on a really good show. Samantha Pugh, you know Bailey or Vaglia I don't think I said her name right, but we had her come out. Bryn Curlin O'Connell came out. She was amazing. Like all these top tier athletes came out, including RX and Intermediate. They all had really great time and it's not every day that you get to compete next to a games athlete, you know, yeah, so that's what we're trying to do. I think dan church put something out there, uh, as a question on one of my posts, and you know we're just trying to make a competition that everyone can participate at a main stage, like professional level competition, competition which I think is lacking, especially in this area.
Speaker 1:That's dope. Tell me your highlight from last year. I know it's hard to appreciate things when you're in the moment and you're like running the event because you want to make sure everything goes well. But tell me one thing that you really loved about the day tell me one thing that you really loved about the day.
Speaker 2:Um, what I really loved about the day is not the event itself, it was how well everyone came together to execute it right, like there. There were some things that happened that I didn't even know about. That, you know, made the competition run Well. Well, I can't pinpoint what that is right now. It's, I don't remember off the top of my head. But you know, like I said before the, the highlight was the volunteers stepping up to the plate and doing what they knew I expected to be done without having to come up to me. You know which is every like affiliate owner slash um, competition organizers dream right, it takes a village.
Speaker 1:You know that's what they say and it really does.
Speaker 2:In all those moments, and a lot of athletes, man and this was another highlight that's on the same playing field, if not a little bit higher than the volunteer thing was a lot of athletes. I personally know, uh, just from competing with them and stuff, and they all came out to me they're dude, great comp, gave me a fist pump. They were like can't wait till the next one. Um, and they were all just incredible people, man, that was that's how I know that it was a success. Everyone was smiling, having a good time, even if they were dying on the floor. But it was good, that's funny.
Speaker 1:So, dude, tell me, uh, tell me these for this year. Like when is it? Are you adding any new divisions? Like, tell us some like things you people can look forward to for 2025 yeah, lots of look forward to let's go, uh.
Speaker 2:So yeah, it's going to be two days. That's the biggest change. Um, we are going to step up our judging a little bit.
Speaker 1:Hold on. Before you go to that, what? What are the divisions? People can register for two days. Two day event Is all the divisions, two days.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all divisions are two days. We're opening up a master's 35 plus, which we didn't have last year, on novice and then you have elite RX, and then what is what's intermediate?
Speaker 1:and it's all singles right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then Masters 40+, so there's six divisions.
Speaker 1:Six divisions there, everything from Elite, rx, intermediate. There are a lot of chances for people to work out Sweet. So now continue on. Judges, staff, all that. You got this. What is it? Afj? Are they coming out this year?
Speaker 2:I hope so. Yeah, yeah, I got to talk to ed and jules um see what they want to do. Uh, I would like to start working with them. We had a conversation last year but I just didn't think it was the right time to bring them out um, especially putting that into like cost and everything. But uh, yeah, we're going to try and partner with afj. Um, there's going to be six events. There may or not, may not, be more scored events, like maybe a part a, part B, yeah, the situation. Um, I'll announce that sometime in the spring.
Speaker 1:Uh and yeah we're America. America dream right, you also.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that's huge. Uh, new venue, massive venue 3 million. I yeah, that's huge. New venue, massive venue 3 million, I think, plus square feet. We're going to be in the hockey rink and we're going to use every square inch of that mall. Let's go Use your imagination and, yeah, it's going to be good. Three levels of spectating so you can spectate from anywhere. I guess some good videos of people from above. We're going to have a VIP experience on the main stage, so if you want to watch from up close, that's the only quote-unquote ticketed item that we're gonna have. We're not gonna charge spectators unless they want to come into the vip area, and that's also mainly for security reasons yeah, that's dope yeah it should be a good time, man, and you got media staff already coming out already.
Speaker 1:We got cam booked up for the mc. Is will, will the camera?
Speaker 2:oh hell yeah, you know that that's dope. Wouldn't go any other way. Um, yeah, we got will. We might bring on uh a few others. Um, but that's something I gotta talk to him about. Uh, he's the director of media. We're gonna have you doing the play-by-play, I hope, right oh shit, hell yeah, hungry dogs coming out august 30th 31st, damn right. So we're gonna have um post-workout, right? Post-workout and pre-workout interviews.
Speaker 1:Post-workout I'll be messing around with all that. Maybe I'll hop down to that vip area. I get some athlete interviews going on, some uh spectator interviews. We'll have a lot of fun out there yeah, uh, we got remy b um.
Speaker 2:He's doing a dj oh I saw that today. Hell, yeah, yeah yeah, um, we got uh brett reader as a second mc um, and yeah, that's it. Right now we're holding off on announcing vendors for the time being until, uh, probably after early bird ends, just because everyone's kind of distracted on the open and stuff like that. I don't want to like yeah yeah, I hear that man.
Speaker 1:Uh, when stuff's going on, it's like all right, I'll just get out of the way. You know you guys have all your stuff, bro. So you know what I want to hear about, bro. Like, have you released any workouts yet? Do you have any workout teases? Um, do you have any strategies behind what you're going into the workouts?
Speaker 2:like, tell us some stuff yeah, so, um, I am inspired very heavily by dave cashrow, but also in the past year and a half, two years, I've been extremely inspired by jr howell. Yeah, if you know of him, dude, he, his program, is wild and I love it's crazy.
Speaker 1:I love the layout of their gym too. I've never been out to crash, but freaking seeing the videos and stuff after all the comps, man, it's like wow, it's such a dope setup, you gotta go man let's go where.
Speaker 2:Where is that?
Speaker 1:uh, spartansburg, north carolina oh, that's not that far, yeah, hell yeah, like I like I feel like when did the crash crucible start? Like 21, 22,. You start seeing athletes go out to it. I'm like, oh man, he got some dogs out here, and now to see that he's fricking. Uh, programming for a syndicate, yeah man it's crazy I'm happy.
Speaker 2:I'm happy that, yeah. So, uh, looking at how they program things, the games crash crucible, uh, crash crescendo, things like that Um, I think they have a very robust test of fitness and I think that the six events is going to allow me to test the full breadth of fitness. Right, we're going to have a strength test, we're gonna have, you know, um, mixed modality test, we're gonna have just a straight monostructural test, things like that. I think, um, if you're looking to test your fitness in every facet, this is a great competition for you to do, um, not only because it's in the unique venue, but I don't think enough competitions test with that thought process yeah, uh, which is very unique and it's very difficult to program that way yeah, um, tell me this man.
Speaker 1:This is my, like, biggest pet peeve. Are people going to be getting upside down at your comp?
Speaker 1:uh, to a certain extent yeah oh, let's get as long as any kind of way. Uh, I don't care what it is, I don't care if it's a cartwheel bed, but I think that people, especially crossfit comps, need to be getting inverted at some point in the end, though, to test your fitness. You know it's a, it's a big part of what we do. Uh, being able. It's the only time that we're switching up the plane that we're in. You know, like just everything is like bilateral hip hinge or like pulling in one direction. You know so it's, and there's only so many opportunities that you could press. So, like, I think that every company says get that, get inverted in some kind of way.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So to speak on that a little bit more, without giving away what exactly we're going to be doing, I'm not shying away from anything, so everyone should be extremely prepared to do anything. Elites, what you see at the game you should probably prepare for.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that's all buddy, but uh, yeah, we're gonna find out, you're gonna have some ramps or some freaking uh parallettes there for people to have to walk on? Let me see it august, bro, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, potentially um, to be lit. Yeah, uh, there will be pressing I'm not shying away from that um overhead movements. That will be overhead movements, moving overhead movements. Um very long workout. There will be one very short workout.
Speaker 1:If you get a, if you get a uh, an overhead moving movement, like a traveling one, that'll like check half the box, you know. Like at least like I'd be all right with that if there's no handstand anything, no wall walk, nothing like that. But you have some kind of like overhead walking lines or anything like that, then that that like is almost in the same breath to me. It puts it together a little bit better too, because you have I like to travel in workouts or I like I like that to happen. I think it's great visually as well as the test for the workout like move the people know like it keeps the viewers invested in stuff. So that would check half a box for me. But everyone out there, I really you could program a great comp Like it can be the six or seven best workouts ever over two days and if you don't go upside down just like, oh, you're a 99 out of a hundred, you know, get on your head some kind of way.
Speaker 2:I think the issue is that people don't know how to scale it down or they're nervous to scale it down for other divisions. I'm not going to say all right, novice, you have to do a 90-foot handstand walk. That's fucking ridiculous. I wouldn't expect that at all For safety and just that's not what the division calls for Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I totally hear that you gotta gotta get creative man thinking stuff, stuff to do um for comps out there that are doing things like that. That's, that's like don't just write workouts and make them whatever and be like, hey, come out here and then do them. You know, like, put some effort and thought into the programming for comps when you're writing events, stuff like that.
Speaker 2:You know, yeah, I mean this, the second workout. I wanted to release, a second test that I wanted to release. I wanted to do it this week. I tested it twice already. I'm just still not convinced it's going to be a good enough test. Like it just went too fast. You know what I mean. Yeah, it just wasn't hitting the like you said. It's not checking the boxes for me. So hopefully, after the open like I'll do no, after this week I'll do that test again. No, hopefully next week I'll be able to post it. There's one already posted event five. What is it? Tell us? Oh man, um, I'm just gonna say the elite, because that's what I've memorized so far, but it's uh, you start out, I believe, with 42 wall balls. Oh, I see this one. Yeah, I like this. I have my Instagram open, actually.
Speaker 1:So say yeah, a little too. I saw this. I like this one. I want to put it in. Maybe I already inspired it for a class workout, but I like this one. Oh, you tried it, I didn't try it school.
Speaker 2:I like this one. I think I don't know if I did it yet or I programmed it so far, but it inspired a class workout that we have here. It's like a wall ball buy-in and cash out. Yeah, I like that. That was pretty good.
Speaker 2:Um, okay, so it is a 40. It's a 15 minute time gap, so it's a longer workout. You have 42 wall balls to start and then you go on your rower. So basically it's a row and then a barbell movement. So it's a 14 for the guys, 14 cow row, 12 for the ladies, and then seven power cleans. The barbell for the elite is 225 for the guys and I believe 155 for the girls. Yeah, and then 21 cow row. I'm just going to say the guy stuff 21 cow, uh, and then 21 cal row. I'm just gonna say the guy stuff, 21 cal row, and then seven squat cleans, 28 cal row, seven front squats, 35 cal row, seven clean jerks, and you're gonna be moving the bar forward every single time to the next. Uh. You know, barbell movement area yeah, is is it ends with the the barbell movement area.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Is, is it? It ends with the the barbell movement. There's no second set of wall balls. No, oh, that would have been really mean. I thought that's what it was for a second. I still really like, I like a, like, I like a wall ball buy-in. You know, like, like, like, go push people to go on broken for this quick set.
Speaker 1:That's going to hurt just enough to make the rest of the workout good. I I've never seen that. I was like, oh, that's, that's good, you know. So with that is the, that's test five, two, yeah that's gonna be like that's gonna be day two. That's. That's a great. That's a great workout for day two.
Speaker 2:I love that yeah well, they're gonna be pretty smoked for that workout. So, whatever time you put up, when, if you practice this, if you're listening to this, you'll most likely not get that time. Uh, yeah let's go.
Speaker 1:I don't want to see that. I can't wait to see that shit in person. It's gonna be good. Yeah, like wall balls, man, just so simple. But they can be so painful because if you just imagine how, how fast the top like five people are going to be doing those and then walking right to the rower. That's the thing about crossfit like you know what that feels like. You know to do those wall ball sets and then hop right on the rower. Most regular people are taking their time before they get into it versus someone. When you watch them walk over, put the feet right in and pull within like two seconds, it's like, oh man, I know where he's at right now. It's a special mindset. Yeah, yeah, I love stuff like that, dude. So it sounds like it's gonna be a sunny day. Man, I'm excited for the summer yeah, it's gonna be great.
Speaker 2:Um, I'm pumped to have you there. I'm to have all the guys that we have so far on the team there. Um, early bird registration ends march 31st right after the open and we start regular registration there. We go then by like week two end of week two when scores are due. Uh, we're probably going to start sending out invites um for the elite athletes scores for the open you talk about yeah, yeah so when those are started and start seeing out some top people and send out invites, I like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, hell yeah, be dope dude.
Speaker 2:Like I said, I'm excited bro yeah, man, yeah, I'm excited to see you on that, that hungry dog uh leaderboard too yeah, uh, brian talking shit on there I know I was like yes, brian do the work. You got a target on your back now yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1:I love it. Good get after it, brian. Yeah, yeah yeah, what.
Speaker 2:uh, let me ask you a question what, um, what do you like to see besides getting inverted, uh, impressing at competitions? Um, um, I like, especially if you're like paying like a decent amount to go to like a two day comp.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I like what you said about the barbells moving. If you're doing, like, some kind of lift or just anything like that, I like working that into the stuff. I like an inverted test in some kind of way. I like things that are that are races, those are just like the basic overall stuff. Like ladders are the coolest thing, right, like we all love to watch a ladder happen and it's just not always fucking the right thing to do in it. But if you could try to get into that mindset of like all right, this is this and this is this and this is this for the, for the athlete, so they're just following the steps and they're going to groove it up to something heavy. Um, I like to see oh fuck, what did I? Like something for the if it's individual, I like to see things where you can keep track of the, the workout too. Right, like yeah, I think that that workout, the, the uh, the buy-in of the wall balls and then the back and forth with the moving, like that goes so good because it's just one set of wall balls and like it's not that many. You're probably not gonna count them if you're a spectator, but you could be like, okay, it's 42, it's a bit about 20 seconds. They're probably about here. This person looks like they're slowing down, you know. And then they drop and you're like, okay, I know exactly where they are, you know they don't have to go back there, so I don't have to figure out what round they're on, you know. And then outside of that man, I just like to see CrossFit. You know people that have that have done one comp and done crossfit from one of the two, threes could put together good workouts. But it's fine.
Speaker 1:To those other elements that like, okay, how do I make this a visual race for the spectators? How do I make this a race for the actual athletes that they're? That they're. I mean like if colton burton shows up and it's like there's not another games athlete there, then he's going to be able to just go as fast as he needs to and stay ahead of him. But for most people, like even in the elite category, they're going to need to race people to stay ahead at points, right. So I like to see things that are there, like putting it in for race for spectators, race for athletes, and then, like we said, getting inverted. You know, I think that everything else, the workouts like work themselves out, but people can miss on the inverted test and, oh, you know something you said, the long test, like that's hard to get right and I think that's why people stay ahead of stay away from that one. Make that one interesting too as best you can, because sometimes you just got to make it a test for the athletes, you know.
Speaker 2:But the best people are going to make that all three, you know, test for the spectators or race for for the athletes, race for the spectators and then also have like the kind of boring things in it, you know yeah, I think another thing that a lot of competition organizers shy away from is, uh, making a workout that is either a not finishable, or b like, only like one person is going to finish, and that's one of the things that this guy, lou, yelled at me about. He was like bro, six minutes on cap really. I'm like, yeah, just push harder.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:No, that's good. I mean, colton finished it. I think Sam and Bryn finished it as well, I don't remember. But yeah, there was only like one or two people that finished that workout and I'm like, good, that's the exact reason why I programmed that workout. You know, hell, yeah, uh, you need to have those tests, even in class. I tell that to my members sometimes too. They're like bro, you're insane, you're programming all of this work in 15 minutes. I'm like, yeah, work hard.
Speaker 1:You know, um, dude, I 100 agree with that. I just went through yesterday. I programmed it to work out and people were like, oh my God, this was a terrible. This is so hard. You know like you have to do this. You know, if you program that, I'm like all right, I mean I'll do it, but it's just a hard workout. You know, like all kind of tripping.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I a hundred percent agree with that. I would run it back to. If people were like, oh, that six minute workout was super hard. You know, that's way too aggressive. No one finished.
Speaker 1:I would be the person to run it back in year two. Yeah, right, right, like that should expose something to you. Like I did a workout when you're at the brawl that had four-way synchro front squats and it destroyed people and everyone's like that was so tough and I'm like, say less running it back next year. Same thing again. You know like, epic, get after it, man. Uh. But yeah, dude, I think, I think you're gonna do a great job with the programming like that. That one test alone itself tells me that there's gonna be some fun going on, like you moving the barbells and thinking about the visual aspect as well, as well as the race aspect of it is like two major things and, like I said, the workouts will will sort themselves out.
Speaker 1:Um, I would say to you, don't be afraid to like reach out to people in that inner circle of yours like like I kind of have like a two different sides of my inner circle the workout side of it things and then like the logistics side of it things. You know, I go to like alias helping me write the workouts for the brawl, and I've always worked with justin before on like comps, even before we had it at Reed. And then I have like Yamarise and then other judging people that I send over the workouts to after we write them like hey, what's the best way to like put this into the scoring thing? No-transcript we're at. Can you help us like put a bow on it? You know?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, dude. And yeah, marie's I I use her for head judging for the treatment and mananny as well. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Great resources.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Awesome. It's amazing, like all the people that CrossFit brings together, you know, and then, if you're willing, you could definitely create a great network.
Speaker 2:Damn right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man. But, bro, thanks for coming on again. Third episode I didn't even think about this beforehand. Uh, and, like I said, like Monday morning when I wake up, I know there's gonna be some downloads from the other one I'm gonna probably gonna put this out on Monday as well, put this up on YouTube and shit, so that you get the chance to get your workout in, post the score Monday afternoon and then people can check the leaderboard for you, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I gotta be a, I gotta be Brian.
Speaker 1:He's always talking crap Dude.
Speaker 2:I he's always talking crap dude. I think ramey's gonna crush this event.
Speaker 1:Yo dude, he's got, he's like all engine. I know, yeah, it's all this. Yeah, man trab was like he's not gonna do good and I'm like, bro, you got a pretty good engine. You've been training crossfit again.
Speaker 2:His legs are like 10 feet long.
Speaker 1:He has to take two, two lunges exactly because I only took like five steps on the lunge, so I know he'll be through that, come on. And he's good at burpees too. He'll be all right yeah you know, everyone just tries the same bag. He'd be like, oh, I'm not gonna do that good, and then they freaking beat you by two rounds like bro, come on now like tell the truth yeah, all right, come on, wait last at the end of this what's up are you? Are you a repeat person? Are you gonna repeat any workouts? Have you repeated any recently?
Speaker 2:uh, I did a variation of the snatch ladder one like two weeks ago. That was interesting, didn't go no, like in the weekend.
Speaker 1:Are you gonna like? Do you repeat?
Speaker 2:to get a better score um, yeah, probably. Uh, if I don't get the score that I want, then yeah, I'll probably do it again. I usually do it twice.
Speaker 1:Anyway, I say I tell myself I'm not going to and I do it again. I usually do it twice. Anyway, I say I tell myself.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to and I do it anyway like an asshole, but I feel that it's fun. You know you get you usually do better, so whatever.
Speaker 1:I've only redone one workout in the past like five years and I actually did get better it was. It was last year's one, because the first workout I was in Ohio for at the the Arnold uh, when it first dropped, I came home Saturday night, did it Saturday night and then just crushed, you know, and redid it. It got like 12 reps better or something like that on Monday. So I was like, all right, this is the only time, and if I ever feel like I could do that again, then I'll redo it, but nothing like too major, you know. Yep, yep, yep. But all right, get out of here. It's been another great episode. Uh, check out everything you know. Go follow andrew on instagram there at the true beat games, sign up for that. You got early bird registration until march 31st, right, yep, march 31st. Hell, yeah, go get after that workout, bro, you're gonna get out of here. Peace.