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Hungry Dog Barbell Podcast
Jen Forik
We sit down with Jen Forick, nurse practitioner and co-owner of CrossFit T1, to explore how coaching, caregiving, and community can build lasting health. From palliative care lessons to snatch Sundays and Wellness Wednesday, this is about turning a gym into a true wellness engine.
• what palliative care really is and how it shapes Jen’s view of quality of life
• using workouts as an emotional reset and resilience builder
• the path from commercial gyms to barbell proficiency and gymnastics capacity
• simple nutrition rules: walk more and eat enough protein
• EMOMs for fundamentals: chest-to-bar, toes-to-bar, and smart progressions
• lessons from ownership: respond slowly, be visible, earn trust
• building T1 as a one-stop wellness hub: nutrition, PT, and responsible hormone literacy
• community churn, returns, and keeping the culture strong
• watching CrossFit HQ’s next chapter and what it could mean for affiliates
• longevity over aesthetics: training that pays dividends in everyday life
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What's up, dogs? Welcome back to another episode of the Hungry Dog Barbell Podcast. This week we're joined by my good friend Jen Forick, co-owner along with her husband of Cross at T1 and Willow Grove PA. Jen wears a lot of hats from affiliate owner to coach, mom, wife, and also nurse. Through each one of these diverse roles, she is on a singular mission to create healthier humans both inside and outside of the gym. In this conversation, we dive into Jen's approach to building long-lasting health, the lessons she's learned balancing, coaching, community, and caregiving, and also going into year three and the future at CrossFit T1. Tune in to hear Jen's story. And of course, if you enjoyed the episode, please like and subscribe to the show on all streaming platforms. We talk with more inspiring people like this every week. So we were just talking about like ChatGPT. Like, tell me, how do you feel you are with like internet stuff? Um, like I don't know, technology. Like, are those where your skills are, or are you like leave that for someone else?
SPEAKER_00:So I'm more or less doing our social media right now for the Instagram. Uh, I've been using ChatGPT for a lot of the content, just like the wording of, you know, I'll come up with an idea and then throw it in there and have Chat GPT spit out like some, you know, better verbiage, if you will, more lengthy, beefier verb verbiage, um, to make it more interesting of a post. But like I've been doing most of that and I've been finding that it's working out pretty great. So it's yeah.
SPEAKER_01:The thing about ChatGPT gives you like a cleaner, like you're saying, you know, uh caption, which like you want to come across as you because you want to like represent like your identity as the gym, like because they co-like they coin they coincide so much, right? Uh, but you do want it to be like if someone that is reading it for the first time get like a good impression and not just an impression of you, you know.
SPEAKER_00:Right, exactly, exactly 100%.
SPEAKER_01:So you've been doing the social media, right? Like I've been noticing the videos and everything have been like upticking. Like, what are you using for that? And like, what's that process been like of teaching yourself?
SPEAKER_00:So it's it is total uh, you know, just throwing myself into it and just seeing what works, seeing what doesn't work. So it's funny, we went back a couple like a week or so ago, and we were trying to see what was our highest hitting videos, and some of our reels that we like thought were kind of silly but ended up being pretty funny, like have actually reached like, you know, four or five. Actually, one of them hit 7,000 views, which we were totally surprised about. So we let's go recreated some things, some funny things we've seen on social media and recreated it for T1 and it took off. Um yeah. So one of the most recent ones is just a picture of myself I put up about optimizing health here at T1 and us showing you how to do that, starting like a wellness Wednesday post um for the gym because you know I'm in the medical profession. So figured this would be a good opportunity to use the social media to like throw out there for the members like how can working out here at T1 help your health and longevity. Um, and funny enough, you know, Donfell, you know, he liked it. CrossFit uh affiliates reposted it, you know, a couple people from the medical society liked it. And it was weird because I did not like it was literally just a picture of myself using the social media branding from CrossFit, and it took off. So I was like, this is awesome.
SPEAKER_01:Hell yeah. Yeah. So you're talking about like what you do for a living now. Like, what is your title? Um, like what are your hours like? And how do you fit in working out? Like, what's that like in your schedule?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so I am a nurse practitioner and I work in palliative care. Um, I've been doing uh palliative care, been in my position now for just under 12 years.
SPEAKER_01:All right, for the layman like me, who aka the idiots, what does palliative care mean?
SPEAKER_00:It's a great question. So basically, what we do is we work with patients that have chronic illnesses. So, you know, Alzheimer's, dementia, COPD, heart failure, all the things that typically patients are readmitted to the hospital for. We end up getting consulted to see them while they're in the hospital, or we see patients at home and basically try to help them have the best quality of life that they can have while they are living through their illness. And, you know, we do have discussions about end of life. We have discussions about, you know, resuscitation and whether or not they'd want CPR and things like that. So we have a lot of um, you know, heartfelt emotional conversations with the patients. Um, and it's just we spend a lot of time with the patients that the providers in the hospital or the primary care physicians don't have the opportunity to do. So we have these conversations based off of what their long-term wishes are and what they how they how they see themselves um in the next week, in the next month, or the next year, depending on, you know, what they're currently, you know, what their current prognosis is.
SPEAKER_01:How do you, I don't know, like dump all that off of you? Like, do is working out your time to like let some of that stuff out? Like, how do you get those emotions out of your system?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, 100%. So working out is definitely my outlet. I have been doing this, like I said, for 12 years just in this position. But before I was a nurse practitioner, I was a nurse in the ICU. So I started out with these very sick patients, and that's kind of how I got into palliative care. Um, so this is definitely, I've always been very good at compartmentalizing and being able to leave work at work and then go home and, you know, work out, get it out. You know, the other day I had it, you know, I just had a lot of emotion from my work day, and I ended up sitting here on the true form just sprinting for as long as I could. So I mean, it does help. It's definitely um what a sicko.
SPEAKER_01:I know.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, you're like me. We don't like cardio, we like barbells. So, like it was just it was very nice to just be able to sweat and just get it out because that's what I needed.
SPEAKER_01:Damn, dude. So you said 12 years you've been in this role, but you were doing something similar to that before. What what were you doing before? And then I guess off of that, tell me a little bit about how you became a nurse practitioner and like where that dream came from and all that.
SPEAKER_00:Yep. So basically I went into nursing first. So I was a nurse for about five and a half, six years working um in the ICU, and then was going back to school at the same time to become a nurse practitioner. So um essentially was going to I was working night shift and then going to school, um doing my work inner, you know, it was it was not easy. It luckily it was before we were married, it was before we had kids, so it was easier to do then. But definitely taking classes and working night shift, I do not recommend. Um, but it was um, you know, a couple of years of just taking one class at a time and then ended up getting my um master's degree in um uh I'm an acute care nurse practitioner, um, and basically just started working, uh, had one previous job before my current role, which was with a nephrology, a kidney um doctor team. And uh I just knew that I was missing something, and it was the fulfillment of just being able to be with patients and kind of talking about their entire, you know, uh past medical history and not just focusing on one specific um, you know, specialty, if you will. So not one specific organ rather than just focusing on them as a whole and having these deep conversations. I really enjoyed. So um, yeah, that's where I've been. And um, you know, I do enjoy it. It's it's it's funny because, you know, I do say all the time I'm jealous of Kev. He gets to be here at the gym during the day. And I'm always like, you know, texting him, what's going on? Anybody, anybody like hit PRs today? What's going on? Any bit any big lifts, you know, whatever. But yeah, yeah. And and I'm at work. And then, you know, I leave work and basically come home. I coach in the evenings and work out in the evenings. So that's just how, you know, it works out for us right now. So yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Have you always been an evening girl, like coming in after work, you know, working out and coaching? Do you do like class and then do you take the next one, like coach the class, take the next class?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. So just depending on how the work schedule goes and when I'm able to get out of work and then get over here to I usually work out either before or after class, depending on what works best for the schedule that day. Um, but um funny enough, we're right now we're kind of doing well with coaches, and I'm only coaching one class a week right now. Um, probably picking up another one off of Kev so that he has some more time. But um, yeah, it's it's been working out so far.
SPEAKER_01:That's dope. So, Jen, do you consider yourself a social person? Like, where did that drive to want to connect with people like that come from?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I I love having you know conversations with people. I I do consider myself very social. Um, of course, being so social during the day, it does become difficult to continue that when I get into the gym sometimes on hard days. Uh, I find that I'm still very happy and and giddy while I'm here at the gym because this is my happy place. But it's just hard then when you get home and you have like the needs of the family too, on top of everything else. So sometimes it's like I am overwhelmed and I need to shut down at some point because it's hard to be on, on, on all the time 24-7. Um, but yeah, I I definitely I do I enjoy asking questions and finding out the answers from people. So that's a lot of my job is sitting asking hard questions um and kind of finding out, like doing the little investigative work, you know, with my patients and trying to figure out what's going to work best for them and just finding out about them and their history and how they got to where they are. Um, it's it's very fascinating to me.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Are you on two questions? Are you an only child or do you have siblings?
SPEAKER_00:No, I have I have a brother. He's two years older than me.
SPEAKER_01:Did he deal with that when you were younger?
SPEAKER_00:Were you the same that's so he he's the opposite of me? He does not like people. He he does like people, but he's not as social as I am. So it's just like he's the total opposite of me.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's funny. Like I see a lot of people that are like if they're like that real questioning person, if they're like they like to deep dive and figure out all the things, like they usually have this sibling that's like, yep, she's been like that their whole life, you know.
SPEAKER_00:I I my mom used to tell me I don't shut up.
SPEAKER_01:So hey, we need that in the rules we're in now, right? So if you could be doing anything else, or if you I guess I really want to know have you ever pictured yourself doing anything else besides what you're doing right now?
SPEAKER_00:Yes. Um, I 100% would love to turn this CrossFit T1 into like a complete wellness center. Like I think that would be ideal. It would be amazing if I could do that. And and what I mean by that is, you know, running the gym as it is with CrossFit classes, but then also having like the wellness piece on the side, which, you know, we have nutrition, we have Coach Kate here, you know, I'm also nutrition certified. A couple of us uh of the other coaches are as well. I would love to pull that in more. And I would also like to, you know, I've been diving into like the the, you know, now, now I'm gonna get probably some hate for this, but I've been diving into the TRT thing of just finding out more about it and like could people benefit from it? You know, I'm not talking about people that want to go to the games, I'm not talking about any of that stuff, but it's just I'm curious as people age, because this is what I've been dealing with, is I see patients that are, you know, again, chronically ill. And it's like, would this help with their longevity? Would this help them feel better? So I'm not talking about athletes that are looking to just grow muscles and get beefier for the games and things like that. I'm talking about would this help, you know, long-term issues in the future for patients and you know, males or females. Um so I find it very interesting. So I've started to kind of look into these types of things, and you know, I've joked around that I think, you know, barbells and Botox would be a cool thing to get into. So, you know, it's just ideas I've been playing around with of how to make this place like a complete wellness center, you know, there's no 100%, you know, guarantee of what's gonna happen, but I would love to be here full-time doing that.
SPEAKER_01:Right. And I mean, as I mean, that that trend is growing out there where more people are getting their blood work done. And then like we've always kind of been on the the the terms of like, all right, like where are my sugar levels, you know, like where's my blood pressure and like all that. Like people have known about those panels, you know, but now people are looking into the other things, like with their testosterone, like you're talking about. So if that is starting to become more commonplace, you're only doing yourself a disservice if you're not at least becoming more educated on it.
SPEAKER_00:Exactly.
SPEAKER_01:And so you're gonna see that a lot more and more. It's good. Um, Cross of Westchester did that actually. They did a barbells and botox uh like event before. One of the members had someone that that comes out and does it, so they had a little workout and the ladies stayed afterwards. It was like a it wasn't only for the ladies, but a ladies-only like holiday party essentially that they had last December. So that was fun.
SPEAKER_00:That's also that's that's exactly what I would love to do, is just you know, all over wellness, you know, it's it's definitely like you said, it's it's kind of like the way of the future. People are getting to know their bodies more, know their lab work more, know what to look for. So I think it's definitely important.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. If there's things in your in your lab work that are causing you to like have poor appetite, like either way, either either you eat too much, you're not eating it enough to support your goals and your daily lifestyle, um, or the other major one, like affecting your sleep, then you should attack those things, you know. And there's that's definitely something that can happen. Um, so taking it back even more now, like tell me about your sport background, right? Like, did you play any sports growing up? Do you consider yourself a competitive person? When are the first times you saw saw that start to manifest? Like, tell me all that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so um definitely was an athlete growing up. Uh, played a little bit of everything when I was younger, like a little bit of soccer, um, you know, basketball, did all that. In high school, I played lacrosse and field hockey. Um I really enjoyed those two sports, more so lacrosse. Um, I really liked lacrosse a lot.
SPEAKER_01:Are you from PA? Are you from this area?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. So I grew up in the Northeast, in Northeast Philly. Um, went to high school there to all girls' school. Um, and then um basically my parents moved when I was in um my senior year of high school. They moved out to the Abington area and then we're still in the Abington area.
SPEAKER_01:Damn, senior year, that's rough.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. They knew, you know, my brother was off to college, they knew I was off to college, so like, ah, we'll move now. But they you know, I was still able to commute to high school. It was, you know, they had moved out of Northeast Philly, uh, where all my friends were. So um, but yeah, so we uh I was in sports my whole life, uh very athletic family. And then um, you know, as basically college came around, I knew with nursing, um, you know, you know, you need to maintain a specific GPA. And I knew if I played a sport in college, I probably wasn't going to be able to maintain that GPA. And it was really important for me to continue on with nursing. So um I did not play a sport in college, but I did do like intural basketball in college and things like that, which was a lot of fun. Um, and then, you know, Kevin and I met in college, and then basically by the time we graduated, always had gone to like LA fitness and all those things, and we were getting ready to get married in 2012. And uh after the wedding, I was like, you know, I just I feel like I just need to keep working out, but I need something more. And then basically my best friend was like, Oh, there's this thing called CrossFit. You should look into it. I do it down in Manneunk, and I was like, okay, so looked into a gym up here, and uh we were initially at we found a groupon um and went yes, yeah, back in the day, found a groupon, went to a gym out in uh Ben Salem, and then funny enough, you know, Terence was the initial owner here at T1. And I was like, wait, I I think I, you know, I went to grade school with Terence. I think he owns a CrossFit gym, and it's literally right from where we live. So we ended up here uh not too long after we had started CrossFit, you know, all around.
SPEAKER_01:The Groupon days, and let me just say that I love when the OGs say that, like, oh, I'm looking for something more. I'm gonna try this thing called CrossFit. We all refer to it as like this such foreign thing in the like the beginning. Like, I'm gonna go do this one time, like I don't know, and then maybe I'll never go back, and then it becomes like such a big part of your life after.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, exactly. Exactly. It's it's so fun now to look back. I mean, it's been like 13 years, and it's wild that it's you know, I've been doing this that long. I mean, yeah, crazy.
SPEAKER_01:The format changes, the owners of CrossFit change, but we just keep plugging them all along, yeah. So you were saying that you were in LA before, like LA fitness before, of like in college and all that stuff. How did you get to the weight room? Like, were you just like, I want to go work out? Did anyone show you like how to lift weights? Like, tell me all that stuff.
SPEAKER_00:No, so funny enough, I never really touched a barbell until I got here to T1. So I I may have touched a barbell at LA Fitness and probably was just doing like a deadlift. Like it was, I don't even remember actually touching a barbell, to be honest, but yeah, I'm thinking that I had to have at some point and never did a clean before a snatch, definitely not like nothing. And then walked into T1 and then start doing all these things. And like I felt, okay, like these things are hard, but I can do them. And of course, like, you know, just like everybody, the snatch was the most difficult thing. And you know, now it's like my favorite lift because I was so bad at it when I started that I made myself practice it every Sunday. Like they made fun of me here, they would call it like the the coach that coached here on Sundays would just laugh at me and be like, Oh, it's Sunday, Jen snatching. And I'm like, Exactly snatching Sunday. So um, you know, then I just love doing it from then on, and it's just stuck now. And Sundays are our lifting days here at T.
SPEAKER_01:I was gonna say, Yeah, you're kid you're still going with it. That's so dope. Still working on stuff out on Sundays, man. Yeah, so you came into it. No, let's talk about LA for a little bit. So, do you remember what you were doing when you would go in there? Would you just hit the treadmill up, like do some bicep curls? Like, what were you doing?
SPEAKER_00:It was it was basically dumbbell movements, like of just sitting, like presses, curls, things like that, and running. And yeah, I'm trying to think. I know one of my friends um would when one of my friends would come with me, we would sometimes go into like the like the empty, like um like room, like like glass, uh nice. Yeah, like the racquetball rooms, and like we would play actually, we played like racquetball a couple of times, and then um we did like a lot of like uh kind of just wandering around. And and we honestly, to be honest, didn't know what we were doing, and we were lifting dumbbells in any which direction with no no rep scheme, nothing, no direction. So it was just going go for the cardio and go for like the minimal weight lifting. And that's why I was like, I don't even know what I'm doing here. Like, I'm not getting better at anything running, I'm still not better at, like, I just don't understand what I'm doing.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah, yeah, definitely.
SPEAKER_01:Was your brain like in the I want to get better at stuff kind of mode at that time, though? Were you like, or is that just hindsight looking back that you were like, I wish that I was getting better at something, or were you already kind of on that path?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I you're exactly right. I probably wasn't even thinking that I wanted to get better at anything. It was honestly, it was me leaving night shift at 7:30 a.m., driving to LA fitness and just running on the treadmill. So it was more or less less just for the the fitness piece of it to try to keep up with the, you know, probably, you know, at that who I mean, who doesn't want to look good, right? So trying to look good, feel good, um, yeah, with no real intention of getting better at anything, really. Would do occasional 5k every once in a while, but I wasn't looking to like PR times or anything.
SPEAKER_01:Do you do your parents, like your brother, your family work out? Like, is that something that was like a normal thing in your household? Is that why you like even got the LA fitness membership?
SPEAKER_00:So my dad um always was lifting in the basement. It's funny how now, like I never really thought of this before. My dad actually made his own like weights on a barbell. Oh, damn, with like cement, like weighed it out, like did this whole let's go. Yeah, he had a barbell and um one or two hand like dumb, they weren't dumbbells, but hand weights made in our basement growing up in the northeast. And he would every night um after dinner would go down and he would do his curls, he would do his lifts and things like that. And like I'd be down there, there was a TV down there, my toys were down there, and I'd watch him and he would always be lifting. And he we had a stationary bike, he would get on that occasionally and whatnot. Um, and you know, as he got older, he continued to do that. Even when we moved to Abington, he took all the weights with him and he had a little weight room up there too. So he would do that um and definitely again still ride the stationary bike. He had a bench, so he started bench pressing, all that stuff, but like nothing like he always stuck to the same weight. So it's not like he was ever adding on weight, he was just trying to maintain. Yeah, uh, yeah. So it was it was definitely, you know, in hindsight, probably watching him lift all the time is probably why I enjoy lifting so much.
SPEAKER_01:It was normalized, right? Like it's in the house, your dad's just doing it, like not making a big deal out of it. Like, this is what I do, right? This is a part of my day-to-day, this is a part of my life. That's really cool. Yeah, so tell me now, back to like the CrossFit days, you guys both get into it around the same time. Who struggles more in the beginning? Um, are you guys competitive against each other? Tell me about that, Bod, you and Kev.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so we're definitely competitive. Um, in the beginning, he definitely struggled a lot more than I did. Um, you know, and it's funny, I don't remember this happening, but he said it happened. So our first workout, I don't even remember specifically what it was. All I remember was it was like box jumps, and I want to say kettlebell swings, and I can't, I want to say there was a run in there as well.
SPEAKER_01:And we told me he went out super hot.
SPEAKER_00:He probably did because my brother and my sister-in-law also joined, we all did it together. Oh and my brother is extremely athletic, so he was probably racing my brother and what have you. So Kev said he threw up, and I had no idea. Like, I didn't even know it happened. So he probably happened on his run outside. But he like, and I'm like, Oh, I didn't even know. And he's like, Oh, that was not great. And I was like, Oh, he's never gonna come back. Well, he loved it and he was like, I'm coming back, and he just kept coming back. And now, of course, like it's funny, we were a lot more competitive, I think, before kids. And then once we had kids, we were kind of just like, you know, what weights did you throw up today? What did you, you know, what did you do for the Metcom, whatever? And I'll rub it in his face every once in a while if I beat him and my my name is you know above his on the leaderboard. But uh, you know, it's it's now it's more fun to see our athletes and see how far they've come, right? Um, yeah, of course we're competitive with each other.
SPEAKER_01:The competitiveness moves a little bit, right? Like things change, you know. Have you ever puked before, like from a workout?
SPEAKER_00:No, I haven't. Um of course I've come close. For sure I've come close, but no, I've I never have thrown up after a workout.
SPEAKER_01:Damn.
SPEAKER_00:I don't eat, I don't eat before I work out, so it's not like neither do I usually.
SPEAKER_01:I usually like I need like a two-hour window before like I'm pretty good with that. I mean, like now, especially owning a gym, like I can like have a pretty good routine of when I'm gonna work out, you know. But this one time, there's two times that I've thrown up that I can remember from a workout. One time I was just an idiot and I had like a margarita earlier in the day before an open workout, and it was it was the one that went uh like 27, 21, like down to three um thrusters and burpees. Like, like duh, I'm gonna throw up from that. But then the one that was an intensity throw up, I did this is like in the early days of CrossFit too. So like I was really trying to push part of this workout 15, 10, 5 calorie row, burpees over the rower. Oh my god, I was like I threw up and then was dry heaving for the next hour after that, too. That's the worst. It felt like like I was like throwing up a whole person, you know. I had that like visceral feeling of everything leaving out of me. And I'm like, why do I do this to myself? You know, left your soul out there, so that's all you know, all you can ask for terrible workout that's less than four minutes, like just leaving your whole soul on that floor. It's absolutely terrible. Yeah, you know. So, what are your like workout go-to? Like, what's your jam? If you have an hour tomorrow and you're like, I want to work out, not an hour, say you have a half hour tomorrow. What are you gonna go do?
SPEAKER_00:So, I mean, I always do what's on the board here, like I always do what the members do. But if I could pick it up, right? If I could pick, it would obviously have to do with a barbell, cycling barbell. I love a you know, fast, I love barbell cardio. I mean, get my heart rate up while I'm, you know, with my barbell, you know, that's my jam. So whether it's just like some sort of complex, um, you know, strength wise, or even just, you know, honestly, DT is my go-to.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, I knew you were gonna say that. That hurts my soul so much.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, I love it so much. I've done it so many times. Just like if I'm in a if I'm in a pinch and I'm just like, I gotta do something, it's DT. I've done it with dumbbells, I've done double DT, I've done, you know, it's just I love it so much.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's I've done it a bunch and I used to really enjoy it. Now it just hurts me. Yeah, you know, now I guess I could do it like this year, might be a little bit better. Maybe I'll cue it up for like next week or something like that. But yeah, oh man, when you go up there something so many times and you know exactly how it's gonna feel. That's that thing about prosperity. It's like, oh, I'm I know like exactly when this is gonna start to hurt, and I have that choice to either keep pushing through it or like back off. And I don't want to be the person that backs off, so it's like, uh, I have the physical pain, the mental pain, all of it.
SPEAKER_00:It's all there, yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_01:All there. Oh my god, man.
SPEAKER_00:It doesn't get harder. Um, you know, you just have to well it yeah, cross it really just doesn't get harder. It's just that you have to find that you have to push yourself a lot harder to do as good as you've been doing, or better, you know, because you want to beat your time, but it's like we're getting older, so it's a lot harder to do because our bodies are getting so old, you know.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and you're getting fitter, so you're pushing harder, it's getting harder just because of that. And you have that mental decision, like, okay, am I gonna push through it? Like we're saying, you know, exactly. So, what are you working on right now, like in your Sundays? Like, uh, I see a little bit of it, but tell the people.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. So I mean, we're we're lifting, we're always doing our lifting stuff here. Um, but honestly, we at this point, I am starting to focus on the gymnastics piece a little bit more. Um, you know, I gymnastics is not, you know, my forte by any means. Um, and I've been trying to sprinkle that into my Tuesdays and Thursdays and then on the of the weekends as well, just to, you know, get better at those things. But I, you know, on Sundays, Kev always makes us, you know, some sort of lifting complex that we're gonna work through, you know, with percentages and what have you. So it's either it's either clean and jerks one week and then the next week it's typically a snatch and we'll go back and forth. Um, but yeah, it's uh it it's it's fun because it's it's fun to see that no matter, well, I should say it's it's fun to see that as we've been working on it, you know, it's we're definitely getting stronger. I mean, you know, you've seen my my friend Maureen that came to the super total. She um she crushed it this year, and she just literally, you know, it's fun to see her even get better because she's getting stronger and stronger. And I feel like, you know, the work that we're putting in is helping and it's it's it's helping us feel a lot better too. And it's just it's so fun. It's it's so fun to just keep lifting and just see what you're capable of. And you know, you're never too old to work out, which is just the coolest thing.
SPEAKER_01:So man, that hard work paint off. There's nothing like it, right? Like, and not just in helping you deadlift better and faster in Metcons, too, like your everyday life when you're walking around and you're like, wow, I'm I'm I feel like I could do a lot right now, you know. Like I feel like if I needed to go do four hours of work, I could knock it out, no problem. Like those are some of the best, like non-tangible things, you know.
SPEAKER_00:Right, right. Some people like don't even realize that CrossFit or working out in general, like literally gets your mind reset to the point of like you might have been, like, you might say, like, oh, I've gotta, you know, go pick up my kids and I've got to walk down this hill and walk over this hill to soccer practice and get, you know, and then you're dreading it and you're just like, oh, let's go. As a CrossFitter, you're like down the hill, up the hill, around the corner. You have to go pick your kid up off the ground, and and everything becomes like a workout, and you're seeing that, you know, CrossFit kind of pushes you a little bit more mentally, even every day. So, like the things that made it may have been mundane at one point, like are just like, yeah, it's a challenge, let's do it. You know, I because I just did that, you know, that excruciatingly painful amrap, you know, yesterday. I can do anything now. So it really does give you confidence to do all the silly things that you know life throws at you.
SPEAKER_01:I hear that. Like now, I don't even, it's probably been a while too that I don't even search for the closed spots in grocery stores anymore. Like, I'm I'm just gonna take the walk, like it's whatever. This is the easiest part of my day. Like, I can walk this half mile up to Wegmans from the back. It's uh it's annoying, but it's whatever, you know. So, how are you approaching the gymnastics and what are you working on right now, specifically?
SPEAKER_00:So, right now, specifically working on the chestabar, uh, to bar, honestly, a little bit of everything. So uh on Tuesdays or Thursdays, depending on our programming for the week, there's a few of us that after the class, after we're exhausted, stay after and work on chestabar and toe to bar because um they honestly, toe to bar is my nemesis. I hate chest to bar. Um, and then we'll sprinkle in some bar muscle up stuff. Um, and then you know, it's funny. Again, I've been doing this for 13 years and I still don't have a ring muscle up. Um, you know, you'd think you'd be better at CrossFit after you've been doing it for over a decade, but like throwing kids in there and stuff, still wrenching the situation.
SPEAKER_01:So life, kids, freaking taking over a business, work, all of it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. So it's you know, working on all those things, but specifically right now. It's the chest to bar and toe to bar, just getting more efficient at those things. Um, especially for the open because the open's like, let's say the open's coming.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's always coming.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:You know, um, I love that, man. For kidding. Every year, you just the basics or what's gonna be like what kills people or what like really shines through for people, you know. So work on that. That's the way to go.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and honestly, it's been like five minutes. So we do a five-minute emum, set the set the clock, and then we do whatever you're capable of, whether it's three to five to uh total bar or chestabar a minute for those five minutes. And honestly, we did it through the summer, just had a chestabar workout on Monday of this week, and I felt my capacity was increasing. And I'm like, look at that, you know, right? It works.
SPEAKER_01:It's that's amazing. We said that's the best feeling, right? The progress coming through. So, like, I know people think that gym owners, like you could just work out anytime and it's it must be so easy. But like you told us you got a lot on your plate. Like, what do you do when you're like tired, don't feel like working out, got other stuff to go like going on? Like, what do you tell yourself? How do you have what do you do when you're facing those situations?
SPEAKER_00:I will never not work out if I'm tired. So being tired to me is not is an excuse, and it's not a good excuse. So and I, you know, I want to be a good example to my kids as well. So, like, you know, if they're like, oh, I'm tired, I don't want to go to soccer practice, like that's not that's not a good excuse, you know. You have to push yourself, you have to be there for your team. So if I want to be leading this community, I need to show them that, you know, no matter how you feel, this is going to help. So if you're stressed, if you're tired, like the endorphins are going to help you feel better. So I typically am like, this is a part of my day, like this is scheduled time for me, like to be at the gym and working out. Like it is an everyday occurrence. Now, of course, kids' schedules, my personal schedule, you know, family things are gonna get in the way occasionally. So I always make sure like there's a day of like rest. You know, we always make sure that we're home for the kids, you know, to get them from school. We always make sure there's family time. So, you know, it's just this is a scheduled part of my day. It's a very important part of my day. So I definitely try to work out at least, you know, this one hour a day. The only time that I work out more than an hour a day is on Sundays. I get maybe an extra half hour. Um, or if I'm off, I get to spend, you know, the entire morning or afternoon here just to see the people that I don't see on a normal day because they're at the morning classes or afternoon classes and I don't get to see them. So yeah, I don't really ever tell myself that I shouldn't work out unless I'm like physically ill or hurt. You know, of course, if you're hurt, you're gonna modify things, but I'm still here working on something else. So I hurt my back actually a couple weeks ago, and I was still here. I was walking on the true form, I was stretching, I was doing all the things because it's not an excuse. It's just, you know, you need to be able to still move, function, and and relieve the stress of the day.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, hell yeah. So I I want to start talking about like the present now too, like owning the business and coaching all that. Have you ever coached before you got into CrossFit? Like when you were um sporty girl growing up, were you ever leaving the camps? Were you being the mentor, mentee role, or anything like that?
SPEAKER_00:I've never um coached a sport. I've been like uh a preceptor before for other nurses and nurse practitioners um uh and things like that. Like uh, but I've never coached when it it came down to like an athletic sport, no.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but you had some of the like the teaching background a little bit from that and like mentoring and it helped me develop other nurses and stuff. Um, what was that like? Were you coaching before you guys took over T1? Did you get into that beforehand?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. So I was coaching for just about, I guess it was a year or so before we took over. Um and uh yeah, so I got my L1, I started coaching. I was doing mostly the evening classes. Well, I was doing the evening classes. Um, and uh I I really enjoyed it. So, you know, just being here for so long, it was kind of like a natural progression of moving into that coaching role. Um, but it definitely, I was just saying to one of the other newer coaches that was coaching last week, um, you know, he's also like a seasoned athlete. He's up in front of our feral five. They are out of control, which is the class that I typically either take or coach. And, you know, he said something and one of the girls was making fun of what he said, and he's like, all right, note it, I'll not say that again. And then you're gonna learn a lot about yourself coaching in general, but this class specifically, because they will point out all your flaws. So you really like it's really funny how much you learn about yourself from coaching. Um, and you know, you might not kind of realize it at first that like your, you know, your confidence is low to start as a coach because you're like, am I seeing that? Am I not seeing that? And then you watch it a couple of times. But then once you start actually like cueing people and then they fix things and you're like, wow, I was right. Like that did I did it. Yeah, yeah. And then the athlete's like, I did it. So it kind of is like, you know, it's it's really exciting. So it's it was definitely a transition for me that was a little different. Um, yeah, I'm more confident in my professional life than I was here. And then I realized, like, oh, this is natural as well because I've been doing this for so long.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Is that like what you learn about yourself that like you do know what you're looking at, or it's also something that you learn about yourself when you first started coaching?
SPEAKER_00:Um, I think I realized it a little bit in some movements before I started coaching. And then I think as I got into the coaching role and I actually was able to stand with a person and look at them, then I realized, oh yeah, I do have this. Like I can see and correct. Um, but it took because I'm, you know, where I would normally go in a class setting, I'm usually in the front of the room. So like everybody's behind me. So I never really, before coaching, took the time to like turn around and really look at somebody moving unless they were still next to me. So I really kind of realized it as I stepped into that coaching role.
SPEAKER_01:You're not a screen watcher when you're working out, you're not looking at the person rowing next to you or looking at the person doing thrusters next to you, like, all right, she's on rep seven. I gotta hold on.
SPEAKER_00:I I mean, honestly, I'm just like, just go. Like, you know how you feel today, you know what you're capable of. It's either it's either a just move day or it's a I'm gonna run your race.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, go go ham. I love that. So then what about uh when you become owner? Like, what's something that you learn about yourself then and that you're like maybe working on?
SPEAKER_00:I have learned so much about myself as an owner. Um, I've it's funny, I I was saying before in my professional career that I would, you know, I learned how to listen to people because I would ask a lot of questions, but I really learned how to listen and not respond as a business owner because you want to be able to take the information that someone is giving you or a question that someone is asking of you, but you need to think about it. You need to think about it from a business perspective. And sometimes you can't just give an immediate answer. You know, I'm not talking about like a cue on the floor, I'm talking about like more of a business type of question. Um, you want to be able to think about it. And of course, Kev and I want to be able to talk about it if it's not something that we would immediately say yes to or what have you. So I've learned to not immediately respond or immediately um, you know, just give a response to people and and kind of memory.
SPEAKER_01:For the sake of a response, right?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And of course, some people in here are gonna, you know, do things, say things that maybe, you know, are are upsetting to some people and athletes and and or you know, the coaches. And you wanna take time to kind of take in the information, think about it, formulate a response that's professional. So you don't want to act in the heat of the moment. Um, and and that has, I'm always someone because of my profession, because as a nurse, um, I was taught to act immediately. Like something happens, boom, I gotta go. You know, person's heart stops, you gotta start CPR. So it's like, you know, that's always been an immediate um thing for me is to respond. And so I had to kind of reel myself in to say, okay, don't respond to this, no matter how upset, happy, sad, whatever you are. Like we need to think about this and then move forward with the response.
SPEAKER_01:I love that. It's super important, right? Because you don't want to just put it out there because it's it's much harder to take something back than it is to marinate on it and then give a better answer, you know.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Once it's out there, no matter if you like, I don't know, didn't fully mean it, like the person's heard it, you know. So you can't really take back.
SPEAKER_00:Exactly, exactly. And and the other thing that I learned is that is that people want to see you, you know, being me and Kev and and of course you there at Hungry Dog, like people want to see your face. So people want to see you interact with them and they want to see you also, you know, on the leaderboard for, you know, the workouts and what have you. So it's important to be here in class, you know, whether you're coaching, whether you're participating, and and kind of show them that you're you're, you know, just as badass as they are. Um because you have to be, you have to play that mayor role of making sure, you know, there's always things going on in people's lives here at the gym. And I love talking to our members. I love finding out what's going on in their day with their family, you know, new babies. You know, of course, there's unfortunate, you know, situations in some uh athletes' lives, you know, deaths or you know, illness or what have you. So we like to keep up with all of those things um and just make sure that everybody's okay from a mental perspective as well.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, be of the community, not just be like above it, right?
SPEAKER_00:Right, right.
SPEAKER_01:I love that. So I mean, I'm pretty sure Kev told me that he first formulated the idea of possibly taking over um T1. Am I am I making that up?
SPEAKER_00:So yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Did he did he come to you with the like, hey, what do you think about this?
SPEAKER_00:So we knew that Terence was looking into selling the business. He and I never thought that we would be taking over because we don't have business experience. So um it just so happened that we had a conversation with a member um at actually the Christmas party that year that we knew that Terence was selling, and someone approached us and was like, Why aren't you guys taking over? And I was like, We don't have business experience. Why would we? And he was like, Well, I think it would be good to sit down with him and have a conversation. So Kevin ended up having a conversation um, you know, with the previous owner and and and basically was just, you know, kind of going over like, is this possible? And we went over things. We talked to some friends and family that are business owners that, you know, could look over like legality of things and what have you. And we're like, maybe we could do this. And like, you know, it was something that we had to think about, we had to talk about, and we asked a lot of questions, you know, to everybody. And it just seemed like it was an it would be a very natural um transition for us, um, being that we are here all the time, that we are a big part of the community, we were coaches. Um and we just love this place so much. Like it just made so much sense. Like, I don't know what I would do if like if someone else took over, fine. But like it's almost like I would feel like I should have interviewed this person, like if even if I wasn't the owner of T1, like because we had been here for so long and and we're one of the long-standing member, longest standing members, you know, here at the time. So it just it it naturally kind of happened. Um, but yeah, Kev did do the legwork of sitting down and and going over things, and then you know, we did it together. Um, but yeah, it was just uh it was a very nerve-wracking time because like again, we didn't know what the heck we were doing, and then it just it seems to be working out.
SPEAKER_01:Right. Well, on that note, do you feel like you know what you're doing now? Does that feeling come on?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so I feel like I mean, we have kind of Kevin and I have separate duties, if you will, here at the gym. He is way more integrated into the business aspect of things. We both have um had discussions with, you know, our accountant and you know, different things. And I'm starting to learn a little bit more, but he, because he's hands-on and doing the things all of the time, he definitely has a way better grasp of certain things and then I have a way better grasp of other things than he does. Um, but it's kind of nice being that we're both that we have split the the the different um tasks amongst each other because it is a lot, you know, and you know it's it's a lot to do, especially when you're still coaching and you're still trying to lead this community and do all the business things behind the the closed doors.
SPEAKER_01:And and in this aspect, now you can own your role, right? Like, hey, this is my role, this is what I do, and I could own it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, exactly. Right. And then, you know, we will always, you know, touch base with each other. Hey, did you do this today? And then he'll be like, yeah, yeah. And it, you know, whatever. So we have like a calendar. Kev has his own personal calendar that he follows and kind of goes through step by step of what he's doing every day. Um, but things definitely make more sense now than they did almost three years ago. I mean, we're going into year three in February. So it seems like we definitely have a better grasp, but there's still so much work to do. Like there's so many things that we want to do. So it just feels sometimes overwhelming because you're just trying to maintain things that you know have worked in the past, but then things start to not work, you know?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Things that we've done in the past that have brought in a lot of members that didn't quite work out as well this time around. And so you're always playing with things and trying to just make them new again and refresh them. Um, so it's cool when we bring new things into the gym, the athletes like just they they love it. And I love how much they get excited still over things, especially like our long-term, like our lifers that have been here forever, like they still get excited about things, which is super cool.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Did you maybe a spicy question? Did you have any people that like, I mean, you were gym members before, right? That were like in the community that didn't like that the ownership was changing as you guys were taking over. And like because they're just the first to change, you know.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and that that's I think the the biggest thing is that there's gonna be people that um maybe don't appreciate, you know, Kev and I, whether they're here at the gym, we don't know it. But I think that there's definitely people that probably stepped away because of it. Um, but and that's okay. That's what comes with business ownership, right? I mean, you know, you could go to um a doctor, you could go to, you know, you could have your own personal, you know, whether it's a lawyer, accountant, whatever, and then things just change any anything, anywhere. Yeah, any relationship changes over time. So, you know, you're not gonna like something someone says or does or the way that they do things, and that's okay. That's just again, that's business ownership. It's it's going to happen.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's thanks. Um you being from the northeast, you might know this place like like Tonelli's Pizza Pub, I mean like Hatboro, like places like that, they they sometimes will close other than change in ownership because they already know what they're gonna put the new person through, you know. And they're like, Yeah, I've built this already, like maybe it's time to just move on. It's tough. So, like you're saying, like people that may have been averse to to you two and stepped away, it's not even like you guys, probably specifically, it's just like the change, you know, right? And they're telling themselves, oh, I won't like this.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, I think that's exactly right. So, people, some people are averse to change, and and and again, that's okay. And funny, we had people that had left even before we had taken over or or in the beginning of our takeover that have come back too. So it's kind of like they tried to look at other places and then they kind of realize, okay, well, you know, Planet Fitness or whatever wasn't for me, so I'm coming back, um, which is it's cool. Like, listen, we will never like be upset with someone for canceling their membership or leaving. Like, that's never like it's your life, it's your fitness, and it's your money. Um, but we're always here, we're going to be here. Um, you know, if you guys want, you know, want to come back and and and we're here to welcome you with open arms.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, we're I won't triple your membership or anything, don't worry.
SPEAKER_00:No, yeah. It's like there's no hard feelings ever. And you know, we feel bad for the people who um, you know, have to leave because their schedules change, or you know, they a lot of people, you know, you don't realize until you're a business owner how many people like move frequently. And you're like, oh, like there's just a lot of people that leave this area and go further away, and then they just can't make it part of their commute, which totally makes sense. So yeah, yeah, it's all the things that you didn't think of as uh being a business owner before he took over, and now you're just like, wow, you don't realize how quickly and how often that happens.
SPEAKER_01:100%, or like how often people like will sign up for a class and be like, uh, oh, I actually can't make this because this one small thing came up today, you know. Yeah, how quick, how quickly that happens all the time. Um what did I want to say next here? Oh, a couple of quick things at the end. How closely, if all, do you guys watch what's going on with CrossFit HQ in terms of like the potential of selling? Well, I guess it's not potential. I guess it's really like when it happens and to who.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. We have been watching it because we actually thought that we thought that we were gonna hear something at the games. We went to the games in August and uh turns out we didn't hear anything. Um but yeah, we've been watching it. Um, you know, we're interested to see where it goes. Um, but I think that they're at least trying to make some changes, which I appreciate the the effort. I think that their new campaign that they came out with for the social media has been helpful. Um, you know, it's it's obviously worked. Um and I think that it'll be interesting to see where it goes. Um, you know, there's been rumors of people like taking over. I've heard a couple of different things. So I'm interested to see if that is is true or if it's just rumor.
SPEAKER_01:The validity of it, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. So it'll be interesting because um if it's who I think it is, I think it's gonna be great. Um, but I just wish we would just find out. Like I just want to know what I don't know why we have to wait so long, but you know, I guess.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I hear that. I'm I'm anxiously awaiting and seeing like, oh, well where where what direction will CrossFit go in in the next year? I think we have a little bit of insight with the open announcements, the kind of the next season structure of not only with the changes that we have, but also with the time frame of when they put it out. I think some things have been heard and addressed uh with that. But yeah, we'll we'll we wait and see what's coming. And then next, if you had a person come to you and they're like, I've never heard of CrossFit before, but you look super fit. I know you work out, like I'm not ready for a gym membership yet, but I want to add some health into my life. I want to make better habit changes. Like, what one piece of advice would you give them that could start today?
SPEAKER_00:If they couldn't come into a CrossFit class, I would say just start focusing on you know what you're eating and if you're if you're moving your body. So if you're moving your body, start walking. And then if you are paying no attention to what you are putting in your mouth, just start focusing on protein. It's funny that you asked that question because I actually had two um nurses overheard a conversation I was having with one of the other nurses at the hospital, and they basically were like, wait a minute, how much protein should we be eating a day? Oh my God, I eat carbs all day. So I literally gave like a whole dissertation on nutrition to them. Um and they were like, wow, I'm gonna start eating breakfast now. I never ate breakfast before.
SPEAKER_02:Oh bad.
SPEAKER_00:So, you know, I think for the most part, people have to focus on protein and they have to focus on moving their body because as I've seen people get older, um, old people tend to reach for a Danish in the morning and a cup of tea, and that's it for the longest period of time. So I think protein and just walking is a great place to start.
SPEAKER_01:Dude, not even the older people, like 30-year-olds all the time I see with fasting is super popular right now, especially. And like I just tell people, right, like, all right, so you know already that you need to hit a protein goal and you have some loose information of about where that should be, right? Now, just look at that. If you're only eating between the hours of like one to six or seven at night, like how likely is it that you're gonna reach that protein goal? You know, it's just simple schedulated math. You know, like if you're skipping breakfast every day, yeah, and you're not if you wake up at six or seven and then you don't eat till one or two, and you need to I'm super low number, 120 grams of protein. Like that's a really low amount, you know. Right. You need so you're telling me you're gonna hit 60 grams of protein, but at each meal, like that's gonna be tough for you, you know.
SPEAKER_00:And then you also go to sleep with all of that in your stomach right before bed, like whoo.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my god, dude, it's tough. If I the nights that I like have the 615 class and I don't get home till like 745, 8. If I don't have food prepped that I ate before, I'm feeling super heavy that night, waking up like like groggy, you know.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_01:So that it's tough. And then the last thing I have for you, right? You talked a little bit about it with uh like that the wellness place. What are you hungry for? Like, what are your goals?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so I think that um, you know, I'm just I would love to just be able to reach as many people as possible um to let them know about CrossFit and T1, you know, in this area. I would love to get people in here just to start working on their fitness and their wellness because I don't think that enough people are moving or eating enough protein or doing all the simple things that they need to do. I think that long term, I would love to see T1 be the place that you can go for everything. You know, I we we have a P a coach that's a PT. We're trying to start some um, you know, PT stuff with him, you know, some programs. And I would love it to just be a, you know, all in one kind of spot. I just want people to be able to be here, you know, work on their longevity, be able to ask the questions, the medical questions that they need to to me, and then get their nutrition, get their PT, maybe their Botox and barbells and maybe their hormone replacement therapy, who knows? But you know, I think that if it could be uh all-in-one, you know, one-stop shop, that would be ideal. That would be my goal, that would be my vision.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, the the medical aspect of it is like the like last true cornerstone that's missing from your everyday CrossFit gym. Like, I think most places, most gyms are having some sort of nutrition talks, like if not daily, then weekly. Um, but that aspect that we're talking about right now, you know, I think that's the last cornerstone that's bitch missing in like even the the global conversation around CrossFit, you know, like everyone uh we've we've dispelled mostly the injury rumors, we've dispelled most we've dispelled those rumors, and it's still mostly like about people jacked with their shirts off, you know. People, if you say CrossFit to them, they think of the games. Um, but that's starting to grow, right? Like, like there's things that we can do for people outside of it. Like my mom just did Fran, that's our workout of the day, and she's 61, she just did the workout, and she has no idea what that means. You know, no idea that like her 501 Frey time with like dumbbell thrusters to a box and ring rose is good, you know. Like, no idea about that, but like she knows how it feels.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_01:So, six months from now, if we do it again, she has a metric to be like, this is how I've improved, you know. And those are the amazing parts of it. But yeah, I think that the medical aspect of it, like, is the last cornerstone.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and that's what I'm trying to bring in with these wellness Wednesday things that we're starting the posts and just trying to get it out there that like you don't realize it, but when you're in here, you're working on your health from a medical perspective, you know, your low stress, your blood pressure, you know, you're working on your cholesterol, you're doing all the things already, but you just need to realize that what you're doing in here, it's going to pay in dividends if you keep with it. So that's what I'm trying to get out to the members that like this is important because this is going to prevent you from being one of my patients, hopefully, in the future, because you can get off the toilet, you can pick up the remote off the floor, or your grandchild, or whatever it is, and you can do the simple things without needing assistance, or you just had a hip replacement, but you know, your your your road of rehab wasn't as long because you're a CrossFitter. You know, it's those things that are going to pay in dividends in the future.
SPEAKER_01:For sure. We've seen it time and time again. I mean, the stronger you go into anything, like whether it be a surgery on a muscle, tendon, anything like that, uh, whether it be like trying to correct your health, like the healthier you are, that's a barrier to sickness.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:You know. So it's awesome. Well, Jen, it's been a great conversation here. Talk with you. Uh, did you make your post already for the day? Did you do your wellness Wednesday?
SPEAKER_00:I did, yes. I scheduled them out so that post 7 a.m.
SPEAKER_01:So it's been uh let's go right on it. I love that. I gotta go make mine. I'm gonna try to do a little post uh my mom tackling friend.
SPEAKER_00:You know, that yeah, you know, mom, that's that's a killer time for someone who's probably who's never done friends before I know.
SPEAKER_01:She she she uh she beat me, my pull-ups went to shit, you know, and it's all good. I'll have another opportunity to tackle it again. We'll get after it. She beats me in a lot of the workouts because uh I like to brush my shoulder off. I think I scale her accordingly, you know. Um start to start upping in her uh her skills and and her weights and all that stuff, you know.
SPEAKER_02:I love that.
SPEAKER_01:Those are great metrics to have. Like you look right on the app, you look right on push press, and it shows you it's similar to looking at your my chart, you know. Like, hey, in January, this is what I was able to do. This is my work capacity, and now in June, in December, this is my work capacity. There we go. So it's awesome. All right, dolls. We're gonna get out of here. This is big Jen.
SPEAKER_00:Peace. Thank you. Have a good one.